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skywise
May14-04, 12:57 AM
Q:
How many forum members does it takes to change a light bulb?
A:
* 1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed
* 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently
* 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
* 1 to move it to the Lighting section
* 2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section
* 7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs
* 5 to flame the spell checkers
* 3 to correct spelling/grammar flames
* 6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6 to condemn those 6 as stupid
* 2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"
* 15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light bulb" is perfectly correct
* 19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take this discussion to a lightbulb forum
* 11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum
* 36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique and what brands are faulty
* 7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs
* 4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the corrected URL's
* 3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group
* 13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all headers and signatures, and add "Me too"
* 5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy
* 4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
* 13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions about light bulbs"
* 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again.
Monique
May14-04, 03:51 AM
:biggrin: lol, I hope you didn't post it out of frustration
Nope, it's an old joke from years ago. As true now as it was when it was conceived.
It doesn't hold true on most forums due to a lack of members, but it certainly holds true on Anandtech.
jimmy p
May14-04, 09:02 AM
I call the forum lurker position!!!
Skywise, that's hysterical!!!!! :biggrin:
This is a physics forum, and not a lightbulb (light bulb) forum. Please move it to the appropriate forum (or the lighting section). :biggrin:
russ_watters
May14-04, 03:18 PM
This is a physics forum, and not a lightbulb (light bulb) forum. Please move it to the appropriate forum (or the lighting section). :biggrin: Lightbulbs may only be changed from the electrical engineering section of the forums and under the supervision of an engineering mentor.
Imparcticle
May14-04, 08:15 PM
lol, very funny. Its like a physicsforums horoscope. Skywise, you forgot to mention someone who would argue about the exact definition of a light bulb vs. lightbulb vs.lamp.
Darn it, you stole my cue. :frown:
zoobyshoe
May16-04, 07:06 AM
The notion that a light bulb can be "changed" (changed into what?) is tantamount either to alchemy or magic, and belongs either in Theory Development or Skepticism and Debunking. Either way, there is no number of PF members who will be able to accomplish such a "change".
selfAdjoint
May16-04, 01:15 PM
Since a light bulb is the common symbol for an idea, it can be changed by changing one's mind. How many PF posters do that?
Perhaps the "change" is within the person. If that is the case, then it belongs in the Metaphysics and Epistemology forum.
Robert Zaleski
May16-04, 09:04 PM
This project is going nowhere, it requires an Environmental Impact Report.
tribdog
May17-04, 01:33 AM
the high efficiency of an LED/fiber optic combination negates the need for a wasteful, heat generating "light bulb"
I invented a solar powered light bulb.
hypnagogue
May17-04, 07:07 AM
Perhaps the "change" is within the person. If that is the case, then it belongs in the Metaphysics and Epistemology forum.
You are implying a faulty Cartesian Theater model here. Daniel Dennett has clearly shown that the mind is nothing above and beyond the brain. Therefore any posts regarding the changing of light bulbs involves the changing of one's systematic pattern of neural activation in the frontal and inferior temporal lobes, and thus any posts on the matter belong in the Biology forum.
DarkAnt
May17-04, 10:12 PM
wow...just wow
Skywise, that's just a riot!! :biggrin:
skywise
May20-04, 06:52 PM
wwow is right. I'm happy to see this was so thoroughly enjoyed. :approve:
Tom Mattson
May21-04, 01:57 PM
Let's not forget the 932 crackpots who will argue till the end that everything being taught in schools about lightbulbs is false, and the last and only Bastion of Truth of All Things Lightbulbical is to be found on their personal geocities website, because the referees of establishment lightbulb research journals keep supressing their obviously true ideas.
Moonbear
Sep9-04, 10:51 PM
Well, since JimmyP has been sleeping on the job, I'll take over the role of the former lurker who resurrects the thread. See, this is what happens when someone creates a "best of" thread and brings these funny ones to the attention of former lurkers :wink:
Oh, and since we're also missing links to sites with pictures of light bulbs, I felt I needed to help with that too :rofl:
http://www.bulbcollector.com/light_bulb.html
franznietzsche
Sep9-04, 11:23 PM
You all fail to realize the truth, there is no "bulb", only "light".
For this, you all face eternal torment from being touced by hot "bulbs" that you so erroneously believe in. Heathens.
Ps: And if it weren't for your "bulb" establishment suppressing my oblviously true ideas, i wouldn't ahve had to bring this up in mixed company...
...Heathens.
The Bob
Sep10-04, 03:09 AM
You have all gone mad.
Nice work Skywise. :biggrin:
The Bob (2004 ©)
P.S. This should be in the 'I don't know where this thread should go' section. :shy:
Well, since JimmyP has been sleeping on the job, I'll take over the role of the former lurker who resurrects the thread. See, this is what happens when someone creates a "best of" thread and brings these funny ones to the attention of former lurkers :wink:
Oh, and since we're also missing links to sites with pictures of light bulbs, I felt I needed to help with that too :rofl:
http://www.bulbcollector.com/light_bulb.html
I think one has to consider the biased opinion spouted by this web site before deciding how much credence to give it.
In the pre-1900 section, there were 4 Buckeye bulbs and not a single Cornhusker bulb?! Give me a break. At least the Buckeye lamps all received a rating of 0.00 - (Now watch Gokul go and rectify that :rofl: )
By the way, the Aerolux Cosmos lamp in the neon glow lights is pretty cool - well deserving of its 9.50 rating.
Moonbear
Sep10-04, 10:53 AM
I think one has to consider the biased opinion spouted by this web site before deciding how much credence to give it.
What evidence do you have that they are biased? Just because they don't support your opinions on light bulbs doesn't automatically mean they are biased. This is a reputable light bulb site, not one of your crackpot sites arguing the existence of Cornhusker bulbs. :rofl: :biggrin:
Gokul43201
Sep10-04, 11:06 AM
I think one has to consider the biased opinion spouted by this web site before deciding how much credence to give it.
In the pre-1900 section, there were 4 Buckeye bulbs and not a single Cornhusker bulb?! Give me a break. At least the Buckeye lamps all received a rating of 0.00 - (Now watch Gokul go and rectify that :rofl: )
By the way, the Aerolux Cosmos lamp in the neon glow lights is pretty cool - well deserving of its 9.50 rating.
Funny !! I've heard the husker bulbs were stuck in the dark ages until some westerner came by to enlighten them.
What evidence do you have that they are biased? Just because they don't support your opinions on light bulbs doesn't automatically mean they are biased. This is a reputable light bulb site, not one of your crackpot sites arguing the existence of Cornhusker bulbs. :rofl: :biggrin:
I take all the bad things I said about them back.
What a cool site. If you go back to the home page, they have a section for old radio vacuum tubes, X-ray tubes, and so on.
They even have their own forum. A priceless discussion: http://www.bulbcollector.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000415.html
Gokul43201
Sep11-04, 12:41 AM
I take all the bad things I said about them back.
What a cool site. If you go back to the home page, they have a section for old radio vacuum tubes, X-ray tubes, and so on.
They even have their own forum. A priceless discussion: http://www.bulbcollector.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000415.html
Hey, that discussion is priceless !! Especially the picture with the little black arrow...that's something, eh !
Moonbear
Sep11-04, 10:59 AM
I take all the bad things I said about them back.
What a cool site. If you go back to the home page, they have a section for old radio vacuum tubes, X-ray tubes, and so on.
They even have their own forum. A priceless discussion: http://www.bulbcollector.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000415.html
Oh, geez, I'm sorry guys, I didn't foresee the danger of introducing a slide rule collector to a light bulb collecting site. :bugeye: I'll have to be more careful in the future about introducing PFers to dangerous habits. :rofl:
That discussion forum borders on frightening! This gives me an idea (now I need a light bulb icon!)...the way to solve the problem of over-full landfills. It's not about just convincing people to recycle, we have to tap into these kooky collectors and just start convincing them they need to broaden their collection. Before long, they'll be fishing almost everything out of the trash, and storing it in their basements. It's not a permanent solution, eventually they'll run out of basement space, but it might buy some time while they pre-sort everything for us as we find ways to recycle it for better uses. :rofl:
I'm glad that link amuses you. It's certainly better than the bizarre graphics on the first light bulb site I googled...unless they meant headlights :wink: , I don't know how those pictures related to light bulbs. :eek:
I think the last few posters have been getting off topic, this is a discussion about how many forumers it takes to screw in a light bulb, please stick to the topic.
P.S. Existence is spelled with two Es, no A!
Moonbear
Sep11-04, 03:13 PM
Smurf, if you're going to pick on spelling, then at least get your grammar correct. "Forumers"...puhleeeze! Now we're inventing words. :rofl:
And we're not off-topic. How can we discuss how many forum members it takes to change a light bulb unless we've clearly defined what a light bulb is, where to find them, which type we are talking about, is it better than other types available, etc? Afterall, the methods used for changing a light bulb will depend on the type of light bulb involved. You obviously haven't take enough light bulb classes to fully understand this question if you don't see how many options there are in light bulbs. Please go back to your Light Bulb courses before you tell the Light Bulb experts how to address the question properly. :wink:
(P.S.-Thanks, we needed a spelling policeman and a topic reminder...glad you stepped up to the plate.) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Hmm...how does this affect the count, when some of us are taking on multiple roles...the same person complaining about spelling and reminding us to stay on topic? We'll have to take a more accurate count at the end of the thread. :tongue:
All of this seems oddly familiar...
Didn't we just go through this a short time ago? :biggrin:
You should turn off the circuit breaker before changing the light bulb/lightbulb/lamp/electrical_glowing_thingy just to be safe. Especially if you break the light bulb in the socket and have to use a raw potato to get the base of the bulb out.
I take all the bad things I said about them back.
What a cool site. If you go back to the home page, they have a section for old radio vacuum tubes, X-ray tubes, and so on.
They even have their own forum. A priceless discussion: http://bulbcollector.com/forum/index.php?topic=563.0
Edit: Link updated to new location (You can't actually edit an eight month old post).
Edit: You can't change a light bulb unless it's UL certified.
You should turn off the circuit breaker before changing the light bulb/lightbulb/lamp/electrical_glowing_thingy just to be safe. Especially if you break the light bulb in the socket and have to use a raw potato to get the base of the bulb out.Raw potatoes are dangerous because they're wet. I use a wadded up old sock, works fine. (except for the times I've had to use needle nose pliers) :uhh:
hey, i just changed a lightbulb... man it was so awesome. i like, turned it, and it came out... i burned my fingers at first though, cause it was still hot from being turned on. Also, it was very hard, because once the light was out, i couldn't see any more because it was dark. i also dropped the dead light bulb and broke it on the floor, but i didn't really worry, since i couldn't see where the glass shards were anyway. then i forgot to turn off the switch, so when the bulb was screwed in a little, it nearly blinded me. But, the bulb was changed! woooot
Moonbear
Jun13-05, 01:27 AM
hey, i just changed a lightbulb... man it was so awesome. i like, turned it, and it came out... i burned my fingers at first though, cause it was still hot from being turned on. Also, it was very hard, because once the light was out, i couldn't see any more because it was dark. i also dropped the dead light bulb and broke it on the floor, but i didn't really worry, since i couldn't see where the glass shards were anyway. then i forgot to turn off the switch, so when the bulb was screwed in a little, it nearly blinded me. But, the bulb was changed! woooot
Oh, yeah, it's a bad idea to change lightbulbs while barefoot. I did that once...I was barefoot and climbed up on a chair to change a bulb (ladders are too much trouble). The old bulb slipped and smashed in an extraordinarily spectacular crash onto the edge of the fireplace hearth. There was glass EVERYWHERE and I was surrounded. I had to figure out how to get down without stepping in glass, so wound up leaping to a sofa what was still clean, then from the sofa to another chair, until I could reach a pair of slippers that were near the chair (see, it's a good thing I never learned to keep my slippers in the bedroom where they belong). I managed to not cut myself, but for a moment I thought it was going to be inevitable. That took forever to clean up too. I kept finding bits of glass for a week...every day I was vacuuming again, and still finding more glass. You'd have thought I'd dropped a plate glass window from all the glass around. :rolleyes:
Since I'm sick, I'm reading the classics. This made my lungs hurt. :biggrin:
Ah, so you're the lurker. Almost a year past due, though.
Q.How many forum members does it take to change a light bulb?
A. None! Because they dont need any light other tan their monitor while posting at PF.
twisting_edge
Nov6-06, 04:39 AM
Q.How many forum members does it take to change a light bulb?
A. None! Because they dont need any light other tan their monitor while posting at PF.
That was my answer:
None: Both CRTs and flatscreens are self-illuminating.
(I'm one of the "me too"s.)
jim mcnamara
Nov6-06, 06:41 AM
Are there "me threes" as well?
Q.How many forum members does it take to change a light bulb?
A. No PF members except the members of the notorious sisterhood know how to change light bulbs. It is a secret never to be revealed.
It has come to the attention of the PhysicForums Electricians Union Steward of PF brotherhood Local 1234.5^6 that there has been discussion of the changing of Lightbulbs/Light bulbs/Lamps/electrical_glowing_thingys without the use of union labor.
If the matter is not satisfactorily adjusted the steward shall submit the grievance in writing to the Office of the appropriate Director within ten (10) working days. The grievance shall be taken up at a grievance meeting between the Director (or his designated representative) and the grievant, the steward and/or the Union's Business Manager (or his representative.)
If a satisfactory settlement cannot be reached, and the Union wishes to process the grievance further, the grievance shall be presented in writing to the Director of Employee/Labor Relations. The Director of Employee/Labor Relations (or his designated representative) shall answer the grievance in writing within fifteen (15) working days after a final hearing, except in cases of termination, which will be answered within five (5) working days. If a suitable settlement still cannot be reached,the Union wishes to process the grievance further, the Union may institute arbitration proceedings.
Either party may request the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service or the American Arbitration Association to submit a list of seven (7) arbitrators from which the parties may jointly make such selections. If the parties fail to agree on the selection of an arbitrator from this list, each party shall alternately strike one name each until but one (1) name remains and the person so named shall be the arbitrator.
The arbitrator shall have no authority to add to, subtract from, or in any way modify the provisions of this Agreement.
The decision of the arbitrator made in compliance with the foregoing shall be final, shall be in writing, shall include the reasons for such findings and the conclusion, and shall be rendered within thirty (30) calendar days following the date of the last hearing conducted by the arbitrator unless an extension of such period is agreed to by the electrical thingy changer and the Union.
Each party shall be responsible for one-half (1/2) of the expenses and the fees of the arbitrator designated under this Article VIII, as well as any expenses for the services of a court reporter and for copies of transcripts going to the arbitrator. Each party shall bear the full cost of its own copy of the transcript.
Until such time as a settlement can be determined, changing of Lightbulbs/Light bulbs/Lamps/electrical_glowing_thingys shall not be conducted, whether those changes be physical or metaphysical.
Office_Shredder
Nov6-06, 10:05 AM
I take all the bad things I said about them back.
What a cool site. If you go back to the home page, they have a section for old radio vacuum tubes, X-ray tubes, and so on.
They even have their own forum. A priceless discussion: http://bulbcollector.com/forum/index.php?topic=563.0
Edit: Link updated to new location (You can't actually edit an eight month old post).
Edit: You can't change a light bulb unless it's UL certified.
http://bulbcollector.com/forum/index.php?topic=801.0
This is bull****. One thread on that forum was about WWI French floodlights.... nobody even bothered to warn the poster that the floodlights are lit with mustard gas, and they were originally used to kill German troops as they exposed their positions!
The light bulb industry has been hiding this fact for too long. Studies show that all three people who have never been exposed to a light bulb nor communicated with someone who has have a 100% success rate at not developing niccotine addictions, regardless of whether they smoke or not. The government must stop protecting Big Bulb and start protecting the people!
http://bulbcollector.com/forum/index.php?topic=801.0
This is bull****. One thread on that forum was about WWI French floodlights.... nobody even bothered to warn the poster that the floodlights are lit with mustard gas, and they were originally used to kill German troops as they exposed their positions!
The light bulb industry has been hiding this fact for too long. Studies show that all three people who have never been exposed to a light bulb nor communicated with someone who has have a 100% success rate at not developing niccotine addictions, regardless of whether they smoke or not. The government must stop protecting Big Bulb and start protecting the people!As this post illustrates, the handling of Lightbulbs/Light bulbs/Lamps/electrical_glowing_thingys without the use of experienced union labor can result in great harm or even death.
We will fight this as long as it takes.
Sincerely,
PhysicForums Electricians Union Steward of PF brotherhood Local 1234.5^6
http://bulbcollector.com/forum/index.php?topic=801.0
This is bull****. One thread on that forum was about WWI French floodlights.... nobody even bothered to warn the poster that the floodlights are lit with mustard gas, and they were originally used to kill German troops as they exposed their positions!
The light bulb industry has been hiding this fact for too long. Studies show that all three people who have never been exposed to a light bulb nor communicated with someone who has have a 100% success rate at not developing niccotine addictions, regardless of whether they smoke or not. The government must stop protecting Big Bulb and start protecting the people!
I'm curious about the methodology of the survey. Presumably, the three had to be studied by someone and the surveyors must not have ever come in contact with a light bulb, correct? But the surveyors couldn't be part of the survey, because, while they had never personally experienced a light bulb, they had come into contact with someone who had? Still, either the surveyors had to know what a light bulb was, which meant the survey was possibly corrupted by surveyor bias about the subject, or, the surveyor did not know what a light bulb was and there is no way to verify the surveyor even conducted the survey correctly.
It seems to me it would take at least 27 surveyors to survey the three individuals. One group of three that had no awareness of light bulbs, but had been in contact with individuals who might know what a light bulb was even if they had never experienced one themselves;
a group of three surveyors that had no awareness of light bulbs, but had been in contact with individuals who had been in contact with light bulbs, but had never seen a lit lightbulb; a group of three that had no awareness of light bulbs, but had been in contact with individuals who had actually seen a light bulb in action; a group of three that knew what a light bulb was, but had never seen one and knew no one that had ever seen a light bulb; a group of three that knew what a light bulb was, but had never seen one, but did no someone who had seen a lightbulb; a group of three that knew what a light bulb was, and knew someone who had seen a lightbulb in action; a group of three that knew what a lightbulb was, and knew someone who had had a bright light shined in their eyes; a group of three that knew what a lightbulb was and knew someone who had been killed by a lightbulb; and a group of three that had personally been killed by a lightbulb. That way results could be cross referenced to eliminate variations caused by the surveyors.
Office_Shredder
Nov6-06, 11:30 AM
and a group of three that had personally been killed by a lightbulb
Any group of three will do it for you! We're all slowly being poisoned, and the economic stranglehold Big Bulb holds over us keeps anyone from stopping it! You must all move to Kazakhstan, as I have, to survive the upcoming epidemic!
I, for one, welcome our new light bulb overlords.
Gokul43201
Nov6-06, 12:07 PM
Is it just me or is it still dark in here?
Is it just me or is it still dark in here?Yeah, it's pretty dim. I think maybe it is you. :biggrin: :tongue:
Astronuc
Nov6-06, 01:27 PM
Let's go back to the beginning, which came first,
the light or the bulb?
Then one must ask, how do they put the light in the bulb and keep it there until ready for use. :biggrin:
Let's go back to the beginning, which came first,
the light or the bulb?
Then one must ask, how do they put the light in the bulb and keep it there until ready for use. :biggrin:
The domesticated bulb came along no later than 1000 AD. It's unknown how long untamed bulbs have roamed the Earth.Early bulbs (http://www.holland.nl/uk/holland/sights/tulips-history.html)
Light came along either on Aug 13, 3114 BCE (Mayan), March 29, 3760 BCE (Jewish), Oct 23, 4004 BCE (Ussher), 5199 BCE (Maria de Agreda), 13.7 x 10^9 BCE (plus or minus 200,000 years), 77,760 x 10^9 BCE (Puranic Hinduism), 155 x 10^12 BCE (current iteration of the universe).
Since the earliest possible date for the bulb is unknown, the results are inconclusive.
Don't make things too complicated, since at the beginning God said: '...and let there be a bulb.'
Gokul43201
Nov6-06, 03:15 PM
I think ...Liar!
I'll get you next time.
Astronuc
Nov6-06, 03:21 PM
Yeah, it's pretty dim. I think maybe it is you. :biggrin: :tongue: I bet he didn't see that coming. :tongue:
twisting_edge
Nov6-06, 04:19 PM
Where's the environmental impact statement!?!
Don't make things too complicated, since at the beginning God said: '...and let there be a bulb.'
Yeah, but his was filled with hydrogen.
Hydrogen fuel: a clean and secure energy future (http://www.airforcetimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-2333360.php)
Of course, it takes a hell of a lot of PFers to change the bulb.
Is it just me or is it still dark in here?
http://www.xtratime.com/forum/images/smilies/shades.gif
That's what happens when a light bulb burns out. Light bulbs are electrically-powered darkness-suckers and when they fail, the darkness leaks back out of them. This is especially annoying in windowless rooms because the bulbs have to suck up a LOT of darkness, and when they fail, it all comes back out, making the room so dark that you have to lug in a portable hand-held darkness-sucker just to be able to change the one mounted on the ceiling.
SpaceTiger
Nov7-06, 10:20 AM
* 5 to flame the spell checkers
Mmmm...sweet fire. So many memories.
Can I do this?
That's what happens when a light bulb burns out. Light bulbs are electrically-powered darkness-suckers and when they fail, the darkness leaks back out of them. This is especially annoying in windowless rooms because the bulbs have to suck up a LOT of darkness, and when they fail, it all comes back out, making the room so dark that you have to lug in a portable hand-held darkness-sucker just to be able to change the one mounted on the ceiling.
We have an outdoor light at my house that I had to put a 40 watt bulb in one time. My wife called it, "A Dark."
Can I do this? I don't know. Can you? You may do this. :tongue: :biggrin:
:uhh: Actually, with my poor spelling and grammar, I ought to keep real quiet here. :uhh:
Technically, the lightbulb is replaced, not changed.
light_bulb
May10-07, 01:39 PM
o:) whats a light bulb?
Office_Shredder
May10-07, 02:25 PM
The lightbulb is a symbol of American corporatism and fascist conspiracy! Big Bulb™ is pulling the shades over the eyes of the public, and keeping us all in the dark about the evilness of bulbs. Christianity tells us:
And ye, though one shalt come who showeth the way with the bulb of light, watch not, though ye may be tempted, for ye shalt surely suffer a death of the soul worse than any mortal pain
Luce 4:13
Haliburton spent forty billion dollars on light bulb advertisement last year. Why? Because they secretly implanted a brain control generator in each light bulb they sold! You're all mindless consumer slaves, bent to the will of Big Bulb™ and its subsidiaries!!!! Don't let them take you, or you'll never be free again!!!
The war in Iraq isn't about terrorism or oil, it's about bulbs!!! Hussein was a liberal-minded safety conscious man, who banned light bulbs in order to protect his people!!! Haliburton wanted to expand their market, so they told Bush to invade Iraq so they could give people light bulbs!!! Same thing with Cuba!!! Castro banned light bulbs in 1985, and since then his people may be poor, but at least they're free!! The Bay of Pigs was actually about smuggling light bulbs into the country, so they could mind control people!!! It worked!!! That's why people still try to sail to america!!!
If you do not post this message at least ten times by tomorrow, the ghost of a friend will haunt you for a year. If you do, your true love will surprise you with a present next friday!
Technically, the lightbulb is replaced, not changed.
Once again, you've completely missed the point of the process.
Light bulbs are an aesthetic means of setting tungsten atoms free into the atmosphere. The tungsten filament in a light bulb can reach 4000 degrees Fahrenheit. At that temperature, tungsten atoms will fly off of the filament and collect on the inside of the bulb's glass. The glass quickly darkens and the filament quickly disintegrates. To force a more even and complete disintegration (and to prolong the pleasure), light bulbs are filled with argon gas which bounces many of the tungsten atoms right back onto the filament. Eventually, the filament will have expelled so many tungsten atoms it will disintegrate.
Once the filament has disintegrated to the point that it's no longer possible to heat it via an electric current, the next phase of the transformation begins. The bulb now has a nice coating of tungsten atoms on the inside of the glass and is normally placed in a packing container prior to shipment to the local landfill. (As a side effect, a socket is now available to begin the transformation process on a new light bulb).
The bulb is then transported via truck to the landfill. If properly packaged, the other contents in the package will crush the bulb freeing the tungsten atoms into the local environment. If all goes well, the tungsten will leach into the local water table, where it will be ingested by livestock, animals and humans. In the human body, it's believed by some that a large enough concentration of tungsten can undergo one final transformation, participating in the development of luekemia.
The act of removing a light bulb from the socket and placing in an approved packing container for shipment is just one change in a multi-step transformation. You shouldn't focus in on one step in a major change process. It's important not to lose sight of the forest for trees.
mathwonk
May10-07, 08:56 PM
i love the original post. i am not going to m ake it come true by reading any of the others.
mbrmbrg
May10-07, 09:04 PM
Has anybody mentioned the 12.4 PFers who need to PM mentors to tell them there's a blown lightbulb?
If a light bulb burns out in a room and there is no one around to see it...
Does it still get dark?
Office_Shredder
May11-07, 09:13 AM
Hi,
I'm the guy 3 years from the original post, and I've changed light bulbs in the past too! They're great!
No! Light bulbs are vile, twisted creations. Just look at the evidence
http://media.www.dailynorthwestern.com/media/storage/paper853/news/2000/10/04/City/BurntOut.Bulb.Causes.Fire.Scare.In.Kresge.Evacuati on-1904905.shtml
Burnt-out bulb causes fire
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55213
So, last month, the Prospect, Maine, resident went out and bought two dozen CFLs and began installing them in her home. One broke. A month later, her daughter's bedroom remains sealed off with plastic like the site of a hazardous materials accident, while Bridges works on a way to pay off a $2,000 estimate by a company specializing in environmentally sound cleanups of the mercury inside the bulb.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel
The cartel served as a convenient way to lower costs and decrease the life expectancy of light bulbs, while at the same time hiking prices, without fear of competition. Standardisation of Lightbulbs was another side-effect of the cartel.
The Phoebus Cartel divided the world’s lamp markets into three categories:
1. home territories, the home country of individual manufacturers
2. British overseas territories, under control of Associated Electrical Industries, Osram, Phillips, and Tungsram
3. common territory, the rest of the world
http://www.osha.gov/dts/hib/hib_data/hib19970715.html
Potential Fire with Florescent Light Bulbs
http://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q5304.html
The light bulbs that you refer to are most likely "Compact Fluorescent"
bulbs. These light bulbs may contain the radioactive material
promethium-147 (147Pm) in a "sealed glow (starter) switch."
The amount of 147Pm in each bulb can be 0.33 microcuries (the same as
330 nanocuries or nanoCi). Such light bulbs also contain mercury
metal-vapor and phosphor powder, which are hazardous materials. An
example of an MSDS for such light bulbs is
The research shows it's obvious.... light bulbs are designed to destroy civilization, and this fact is suppressed by a cartel of the most powerful corporations in history! They must be stopped now!
Time to bump this, start with the first post.
Dembadon
Jan22-10, 05:04 PM
Can we add:
* 2 (Dave and Leroy) to argue with each other over semantics for 3 pages, eventually going back and forth about things which have nothing to do with light bulbs or their installation.
Can we add:
* 2 (Dave and Leroy) to argue with each other over semantics for 3 pages, eventually going back and forth about things which have nothing to do with light bulbs or their installation.
Lol.
Is this thread still valid?
I don't even use incandescent bulbs anymore. I've slowly switched to the energy saving flourescents. I even had to buy new covers for some of the ceiling fixtures to account for the difference in size.
http://www.lighthousesupply.com/ProductImages/CF-SPIRAL.jpg
I don't think I've actually had to change one of these new bulbs, yet. Do you still use the same procedures?
When they fall on the floor and break, can you still pick up the smaller pieces by licking your finger and pressing it to the tiny glass fragment?
Has anybody seen a cartoon flourescent spiral bulb above someone's head to signify an idea, yet?
How do you switch without changing?
Pythagorean
Jan26-10, 07:14 PM
I sincerely hope everyone here is following fire code or I will have to report you to Fire Marshall Bill.
http://gremlinbaby.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/fire-marshall-bill.jpg
hey, i just changed a lightbulb... man it was so awesome. i like, turned it, and it came out... i burned my fingers at first though, cause it was still hot from being turned on. Also, it was very hard, because once the light was out, i couldn't see any more because it was dark. i also dropped the dead light bulb and broke it on the floor, but i didn't really worry, since i couldn't see where the glass shards were anyway. then i forgot to turn off the switch, so when the bulb was screwed in a little, it nearly blinded me. But, the bulb was changed! woooot
I think you're lying! Either you changed a perfectly healthy light bulb, which was idiotic, or you didn't burn your fingers! You can't have it both ways.
I'll take your failure to respond as confirmation that I'm right!
wuliheron
Sep19-11, 12:29 PM
It takes zero members to change a lightbulb. Random quantum fluctuations will deal with it eventually.
Char. Limit
Sep19-11, 12:47 PM
That was my answer:
None: Both CRTs and flatscreens are self-illuminating.
(I'm one of the "me too"s.)
Me three. :biggrin: :tongue2:
But obviously, the correct term here is "bright thingy". All of you who say "light bulb" are wrong.
Jimmy Snyder
Sep19-11, 01:37 PM
In the beginning Greg created PF and the lounge.
And the lounge was without form, and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of Greg moved upon the face of the waters.
And Greg screwed in a lightbulb and there was light.
In the beginning Greg created PF and the lounge.
And the lounge was without form, and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of Greg moved upon the face of the waters.
And Greg screwed in a lightbulb and there was light.
Hence, any attempt to change a light bulb will be against the will of Greg. Changing light bulb comes under religious activity, which is against the PF rules and not allowed.
And if you try to change a light bulb, Greg will send you to a special place outside PF, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But Greg loves you.
In the beginning Greg created PF and the lounge.
And the lounge was without form, and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of Greg moved upon the face of the waters.
And Greg screwed in a lightbulb and there was light.
Hence, any attempt to change a light bulb will be against the will of Greg. Changing light bulb comes under religious activity, which is against the PF rules and not allowed.
And if you try to change a light bulb, Greg will send you to a special place outside PF, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But Greg loves you.<wipes monitor> Buwahahaha
<wipes monitor> Buwahahaha
That "Buwahahaha" requires some explanation.
Greg might seem as if he's leading some cult, what with this Sisterhood and such, but the truth is a little scarier, as is revealed by this dialogue from the Member Photo Thread:
Hello Greg, I'm wondering who must look at your attachments above then make a call on whether or not they should be allowed for general viewing?
I don't understand :confused:
Sorry about the confusion but I noticed initially the images you attached were pending approval. I thought Evo alone may have had the power to approve, which caused me to snicker considering your position.
The truth has been let out. Yes, evo has a special leash around me! :tongue2:
And if you try to change a light bulb, Greg will send you to a special place outside PF, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time.
chemicalforums.com?
wuliheron
Sep19-11, 04:40 PM
Hence, any attempt to change a light bulb will be against the will of Greg. Changing light bulb comes under religious activity, which is against the PF rules and not allowed.
And if you try to change a light bulb, Greg will send you to a special place outside PF, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But Greg loves you.
You forgot to remind people to donate to the church of physicsforums.com.
ArcanaNoir
Sep19-11, 05:00 PM
I think you're lying! Either you changed a perfectly healthy light bulb, which was idiotic, or you didn't burn your fingers! You can't have it both ways.
That's not true. If you were using the light when it burned out and you changed it right away with a light bulb from the closet where you keep new light bulbs, it could still be hot.
Not every one procrastinates :tongue2:
And if you try to change a light bulb, Greg will send you to a special place outside PF, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But Greg loves you.
He'll send you to Sunday chat?
Pengwuino
Sep19-11, 05:17 PM
Greatest. Necropost. Ever.
Why isn't this thread stickied?
Greatest. Necropost. Ever.
Why isn't this thread stickied?
Peng is right, this was posted: May14-04, 01:57 AM I am surprised it still is around because some of the members who posted have long since vanished.
Rhody...
... some of the members who posted have long since vanished.
They didn't just vanish. Greg sent them to a special place outside PF.
Aren't they in a constant state of change?
Bulbs that is.
DoggerDan
Sep19-11, 07:37 PM
* 1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start it all over again.
This is incorrect. It's happened several times since 2004.
None because you don't need light-bulbs anymore!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14967535
:)
ROFL!!!!!!! That JOKE WAS TOO EPIC!!!!! XDDDD
wuliheron
Sep19-11, 08:15 PM
Aren't they in a constant state of change?
Bulbs that is.
The dimmest bulbs never seem to change.
None because you don't need light-bulbs anymore!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14967535
:)
I love that kind of idea - very cool :cool:!
I vote we use OmCheeto's light bulb has has in his Avatar's mouth, that is being creative now, isn't it OM ? hehe...
Rhody...:devil: :biggrin:
DoggerDan
Oct22-11, 10:58 PM
What's a "light bulb?"
jetwaterluffy
Oct23-11, 03:14 AM
And one more who decides to post a random lightbulb meme.
http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/memes-troll-science-infinity-power.jpg
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