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galipop
May26-04, 09:24 AM
Hi All,

Can someone refresh my memory and show me how to find the following partial derivate:

t=\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}

with respect to x.

Thanks

arildno
May26-04, 09:31 AM
The partial derivative of t(x,y) with respect to x is found by differentiating the expression as in 1-variable calculus; just remember that y is to be considered a constant. For example:
t(x,y)=xy\rightarrow\frac{\partial{t}}{\partial{x} }=y

galipop
May26-04, 09:37 AM
Yeah I understand the concept. It's just that I've forgotten how to find the derivative of a quotient. The textbook that I have doesn't explain it clearly.

arildno
May26-04, 09:41 AM
The simplest way is to solve for the derivative of t w.r. to x by differentiating the equivalent equation with respect to x:
\sqrt{x^{2}+y^{2}}t(x,y)=x

Another easy way is (I'll give it for one variable):
t(x)=\frac{f(x)}{g(x)}
Use the product rule and the chain rule:
\frac{dt}{dx}=\frac{f'(x)}{g(x)}-\frac{f(x)}{g^{2}(x)}*g'(x)

TALewis
May26-04, 09:59 AM
I remember the quotient rule as "Lo d Hi minus Hi d Lo over Lo squared," or:

\frac{d}{dx}\,\frac{f(x)}{g(x)}=\frac{gf' - fg'}{g^2}

NateTG
May26-04, 10:45 AM
Personally I generally use:
\frac{a}{b}=a (b)^{-1}
so in your case
\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}=x (x^2+y^2)^{-\frac{1}{2}}

e(ho0n3
May26-04, 12:53 PM
Yeah I understand the concept. It's just that I've forgotten how to find the derivative of a quotient. The textbook that I have doesn't explain it clearly.

When I forget how do calculate a particular derivate I always derive it by using the definition of the derivate, i.e.
\frac{d}{dx}f(x) = \lim_{h \to \infty} \frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}
e(ho0n3

galipop
May26-04, 06:30 PM
Personally I generally use:
\frac{a}{b}=a (b)^{-1}
so in your case
\frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2+y^2}}=x (x^2+y^2)^{-\frac{1}{2}}

How do you proceed using this form?

cookiemonster
May26-04, 07:29 PM
Product rule and power rule.

f'*g + g'*f, where f = x and g = (x^2 + y^2)^(-1/2), so f' = 1 and g' = -x(x^2 + y^2)^(-3/2)

And e(ho0n3, don't you mean limit as h goes to 0?

cookiemonster

galipop
May26-04, 07:32 PM
Product rule and power rule.

f'*g + g'*f, where f = x and g = (x^2 + y^2)^(-1/2), so f' = 1 and g' = -x(x^2 + y^2)^(-3/2)

And e(ho0n3, don't you mean limit as h goes to 0?

cookiemonster

Thanks Cookiemonster.