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D H
Dec10-08, 08:29 PM
OMG, it's snowing out! My dogs do not know what to make of it.

We never (almost never) get snow in Houston.

franznietzsche
Dec10-08, 08:30 PM
I want snow :(

turbo
Dec10-08, 08:33 PM
If you can pay shipping, I well send you mine!

Astronuc
Dec10-08, 08:36 PM
OMG, it's snowing out! My dogs do not know what to make of it.

We never (almost never) get snow in Houston. My mom called to tell me it was snowing.

We're waiting for a severe winter storm. We are told to expect power outages.

franznietzsche
Dec10-08, 08:37 PM
If you can pay shipping, I well send you mine!

I'm afraid it wouldn't last long here. Stupid mediterranean climate.

turbo
Dec10-08, 08:49 PM
I'm afraid it wouldn't last long here. Stupid mediterranean climate.How much do you want???

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x318/turbo-1/marchhouse.jpg

Math Is Hard
Dec10-08, 08:51 PM
Ha ha I also got a text message from Clear Lake about the snow. I thought Mom was pulling my leg!

Evo
Dec10-08, 08:53 PM
OMG, it's snowing out! My dogs do not know what to make of it.

We never (almost never) get snow in Houston.Houston can't handle snow. It snowed twice while I lived there, 20 years apart. If you could call it snow. It was a dusting, but the roads iced up making driving treacherous. The last time it snowed was around Christmas. I have pictures of my rose bushes in full bloom covered with snow. About 20 years ago.

franznietzsche
Dec10-08, 09:08 PM
How much do you want???

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x318/turbo-1/marchhouse.jpg

Is all of it too much?

D H
Dec10-08, 09:20 PM
So far, less than this:
http://i38.tinypic.com/2wqeq9g.jpg


We built a snowman four years ago!
http://i36.tinypic.com/345lurs.jpg

franznietzsche
Dec10-08, 09:22 PM
We built a snowman four years ago!
http://i36.tinypic.com/345lurs.jpg

That is the greatest snowman I have ever seen. Palm fronds for arms.

SticksandStones
Dec10-08, 09:30 PM
How much do you want???

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x318/turbo-1/marchhouse.jpg

Hahaha, finally someone who has more snow than here!

Evo
Dec10-08, 09:37 PM
DH, your snowman is hysterical.

turbo, if I can get to my old upstate NY snow pictures, I can better your snow. I lived in an area of Upstate NY that got lake effect snow, one year, roofs caving in from snow were on the news every night. You would hire people to get the snow off of your roof, even though they were at extreme angles already.

franznietzsche
Dec10-08, 09:46 PM
turbo, if I can get to my old upstate NY snow pictures, I can better your snow. I lived in an area of Upstate NY that got lake effect snow, one year, roofs caving in from snow were on the news every night. You would hire people to get the snow off of your roof, even though they were at extreme angles already.

I know where I want to move. I'm so sick of summer 9 months of the year.

fluidistic
Dec10-08, 09:54 PM
More than the snow I need the cold. I used to live in Montréal some years ago and never left it for more than 2 years. That was before going where I am now. Here it snows once in a century and last time was 1 year ago.
The picture of SticksandStones reminds me good souvenirs, I better not watch these kind of pictures! I envy all of you that have snow and cold. (I mean by cold temperatures going below -15°C).

franznietzsche
Dec10-08, 10:25 PM
More than the snow I need the cold. I used to live in Montréal some years ago and never left it for more than 2 years. That was before going where I am now. Here it snows once in a century and last time was 1 year ago.
The picture of SticksandStones reminds me good souvenirs, I better not watch these kind of pictures! I envy all of you that have snow and cold. (I mean by cold temperatures going below -15°C).

I haven't seen a temperature below 5 centigrade in years.

mgb_phys
Dec10-08, 10:38 PM
Not a spot of snow here - even on the mountains.
Unemployed consultant, ski's waxed, season pass purchased - nothing!

Ivan Seeking
Dec11-08, 02:05 AM
We have a 70% chance of snow this weekend, and we reeeeeeally need it. The local and semi-local ski lifts still aren't operating.

franznietzsche
Dec11-08, 02:12 AM
We have a 70% chance of snow this weekend, and we reeeeeeally need it. The local and semi-local ski lifts still aren't operating.

:cry:It's just not fair.

Ivan Seeking
Dec11-08, 02:26 AM
I haven't seen a temperature below 5 centigrade in years.

Go the the local butcher and ask if you can sit in his freezer; just for old time's sake.

Borek
Dec11-08, 02:54 AM
I have pictures of my rose bushes in full bloom covered with snow. About 20 years ago.

Single flower bud on my rose right now. Not snow dusted.

It is half of December. And some crackpots state there is no climate change :tongue2:

Andre
Dec11-08, 04:00 AM
Lot's of snow (http://www.wintersportvereinebingen.de/Webcam.htm) where I used to live (South Germany).

Single flower bud on my rose right now. Not snow dusted.

Seen my roses flowering in January some 25 years ago. Some variants just continue until the first frost.

It is half of December. And some crackpots state there is no climate change :tongue2:

Right, climate changes every month, Oops make that weather.

LightbulbSun
Dec11-08, 05:05 PM
0.19" of ice accumulated already here and it's moderately freezing rain currently. Not looking good.

Moonbear
Dec11-08, 06:00 PM
We're supposed to get freezing rain overnight. I don't mind if it comes in the morning, because the only thing I have to look forward to is the angry mob of students who got their grades back yesterday (I have one more set of office hours in the morning for the few who really want to understand what they got wrong on the final, but I figured I'd get plenty showing up who didn't care to understand but just wanted to demand extra points to pass). I just hope it goes away by evening, because I have a Christmas party to go to. It seems to snow every year for this party, and the roads can be pretty awful getting home if it freezes (it's more downhill getting there and uphill back). Plus, I have about a 2 hour drive to a friend's wedding on Saturday, so it better be good weather by then!

LightbulbSun
Dec11-08, 06:44 PM
Lots of sleet and freezing rain overnight for my area. Possibly up to an inch of ice accumulation. What joy!

Danger
Dec11-08, 06:53 PM
More than the snow I need the cold. I used to live in Montréal some years ago and never left it for more than 2 years.

Reminds me of an old limerick:
There once was a man from Quebec
Who was buried in snow to his neck.
When they asked, "Are you friz?"
He replied, "Yes, I is,
But we don't call this cold in Quebec."

Shackleford
Dec11-08, 07:34 PM
Yeah, the last time it snowed in the Houston area was Christmas Eve 2004. Heh. We were at a Joe's Crab Shack when it started to snow. It was pretty cool last night, too. I went outside and played in the snow. My hands kept getting numb because I didn't have any gloves on. lol.

Ed Aboud
Dec11-08, 07:55 PM
You are all so lucky!
I wish it snowed here (Dublin). It gets really cold and rains alot but never snows. :mad:

wildman
Dec11-08, 08:00 PM
It snowed here in Tucson on top of the mountains. They were white a few days back. It is still cold here (in the 60s during the day and 30s at night) and rain is predicted for the city so the mountains should get more this weekend. It may be a good ski year!!! Bring it on!

Evo
Dec11-08, 08:06 PM
You are all so lucky!
I wish it snowed here (Dublin). It gets really cold and rains alot but never snows. :mad:If the trend for freak snowstorms continues, you just might get snow. Last winter it snowed in Saudi Arabia.

Danger
Dec11-08, 09:57 PM
It is still cold here (in the 60s during the day and 30s at night)

Cold? We keep it like that indoors. :rolleyes:

turbo
Dec12-08, 08:04 AM
Cold? We keep it like that indoors. :rolleyes:You call that cold? Here, we keep beer in the refrigerator to keep it from freezing. :tongue:

cristo
Dec12-08, 08:25 AM
Cold? We keep it like that indoors. :rolleyes:

Really?

epenguin
Dec12-08, 09:17 AM
And some crackpots state there is no climate change :tongue2:

Rome is being washed away.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8738/romebridgenz0.jpg


http://www.reuters.com/article/world...4BB2J720081212

Math Jeans
Dec12-08, 09:18 AM
I must ask, but what is this "snow" that you all speak of? I have never heard of such a thing!

Borek
Dec12-08, 09:28 AM
Rome is being washed away.

Link is broken.

wolram
Dec12-08, 09:55 AM
England, wet and cold. frosty and wet, overcast and wet, sunny and wet, i guess i could make a mud man.

Borek
Dec12-08, 10:01 AM
http://www1.iwvisp.com/tronagemclub/LasrYearShow.htm

Art
Dec12-08, 10:03 AM
England, wet and cold. frosty and wet, overcast and wet, sunny and wet, i guess i could make a mud man.It was freezing when I was in the UK a few weeks ago. Thick frost every morning and a lot of places had snow brrrrrrr... Reminded me of why I left.

epenguin
Dec12-08, 10:25 AM
Link is broken.
Everything is.

epenguin
Dec12-08, 10:31 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4BB2J720081212

Is this OK? Could you see the pic in the earlier post?

mgb_phys
Dec12-08, 11:24 AM
Yes finally snow - about 1cm, just another couple of m and I can go skiing!!!!

turbo
Dec12-08, 11:35 AM
I must ask, but what is this "snow" that you all speak of? I have never heard of such a thing!For someone who travels to the mountains to ski every winter, you sure have a short memory. :devil:

turbo
Dec12-08, 11:38 AM
I just got back inside a while ago, after shoveling and scooping several inches of saturated snow (slush!!!) in the rain. I'd rather get a foot of real snow that I can move with a snow-blower. Shoveling gets old real fast when every load weighs 20-30#.

Math Jeans
Dec12-08, 11:50 AM
For someone who travels to the mountains to ski every winter, you sure have a short memory. :devil:

Wow...I can't believe you actually remember me saying that. You have a nice memory.

My point is that in my area, if we get a centimeter of snow on the top of a mountain within a 300 mile radius, it is a top news story.

Borek
Dec12-08, 12:31 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4BB2J720081212

Is this OK? Could you see the pic in the earlier post?

OK now, I have seen picture earlier.

Borek
Dec12-08, 12:34 PM
Wow...I can't believe you actually remember me saying that. You have a nice memory.

Bevare, collective memory of PFers knows no borders.

Danger
Dec12-08, 01:11 PM
Here, we keep beer in the refrigerator to keep it from freezing.

:rofl:

Really?

Close. We have our thermostat set to about 15°C most of the time. The apartment tends to retain a lot of body heat.

Astronuc
Dec13-08, 04:39 PM
We had freezing rain and flooding in our area. Some branches branches broke and fell, and I saw one tree in our neighborhood that fell over. But we didn't get it as bad as areas north and east of us, or higher elevations. There were about 35,000 - 50,000 people briefly without power.

But - Northeast struggles after storm blacks out 1.25M
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081213/ap_on_re_us/ice_storm
CONCORD, N.H. – Utility crews worked through a night of hand-numbing cold in the Northeast but they still had a long way to go before restoring power to all of the more than 1 million homes and businesses blacked out by a huge ice storm.

In New Hampshire, where more than 370,000 customers still had no electricity Saturday, Gov. John Lynch urged residents still without power to make overnight plans early.

"I think there were a lot of people who decided to just stick it out and stay home last night hoping that power would be restored today, but I think people have to assume that power will not come back today and seek shelter," Lynch said.

Utilities say it will be days before all service is restored.

Temperatures dipped into the teens Friday night and early Saturday in northern New England, forcing many people out of their homes and into shelters.

About 60 people spent the night at the Rochester, N.H., Middle School, including Debbie Reed, 57, who left her apartment Friday afternoon when she started seeing her breath.

"I still don't have power. I can't shower, I can't cook, I can't do much of anything," she said. "My plan is to go home and see how long I can stand it. If the power isn't back on by tonight I'll come back here. It's so cold I can only stand it for so long."

The ice storm compared with some of the Northeast's worst, especially in New Hampshire, where more than half the state — 400,000-plus homes and businesses — was without power at the peak of the outage. Far fewer customers were affected by the infamous Ice Storm of '98, when some residents spent more than a week in the dark. New Hampshire opened at least 25 shelters.

People lost power as far south as Pennsylvania, but most of the outages were in New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Maine and New York.
. . . .

scorpa
Dec13-08, 04:55 PM
Ah it was -25 here today with the windchill making it -39 which I can believe after having spent the morning running around outside. Bit of a shock to the system when you get that for the first time every year. Yesterday was so nice though, only -15 or so so I went snowboarding.

turbo
Dec13-08, 05:13 PM
In '98, my neighborhood was without power for days, and I talked to a representative of the power company and asked her to send a guy with a pickup truck and a hot-stick to close the open safety. I had already visually inspected all the lines, and there were no more sagging-branch shorts. She said that she had to let the dispatchers concentrate on their priorities, and I told her that I knew a retired lineman with a hot-stick in his garage, and I'd close the safety myself. A little over an hour later, we had power. That night, with the house warming up, the thick layer of ice on the metal roof let go and destroyed my fireplace/chimney while sliding off with a roar. The next morning, the ice on the front side of the roof let go, ripping off the chimney to our wood stove. That storm was NOT fun. Try to get masons to come rebuild a fireplace/chimney in nasty winter weather, when many dozens of other folks have suffered similar fates....

franznietzsche
Dec13-08, 05:32 PM
In '98, my neighborhood was without power for days, and I talked to a representative of the power company and asked her to send a guy with a pickup truck and a hot-stick to close the open safety. I had already visually inspected all the lines, and there were no more sagging-branch shorts. She said that she had to let the dispatchers concentrate on their priorities, and I told her that I knew a retired lineman with a hot-stick in his garage, and I'd close the safety myself. A little over an hour later, we had power. That night, with the house warming up, the thick layer of ice on the metal roof let go and destroyed my fireplace/chimney while sliding off with a roar. The next morning, the ice on the front side of the roof let go, ripping off the chimney to our wood stove. That storm was NOT fun. Try to get masons to come rebuild a fireplace/chimney in nasty winter weather, when many dozens of other folks have suffered similar fates....

:surprised

Jeebus Cristo! And here four inches of rain in a day is considered bad weather.

turbo
Dec13-08, 05:40 PM
:surprised

Jeebus Cristo! And here four inches of rain in a day is considered bad weather.Not fun, for sure. We are still suffering damage from that storm. Storm-damaged trees across many hundreds of thousands of acres have provided unprotected access to insect pests, and the bugs are out-of-control. The real loss to Maine's timber industry will never been known.

Borek
Dec15-08, 03:11 AM
Turbo disappeared about 16 hours ago, I wonder if he is not cut from electricity and the net, from what they said here on TV parts of Maine were severly affected by the ice storm.

But http://www3.cmpco.com/outage/ doesn't list his area as affected.

Andre
Dec15-08, 05:58 AM
Turbo disappeared about 16 hours ago, I wonder if he is not cut from electricity and the net, from what they said here on TV parts of Maine were severly affected by the ice storm.

But http://www3.cmpco.com/outage/ doesn't list his area as affected.

Hang in there, Turbo.

Actually Borek electricity transport to a lonely mansion above the ground is rather vulnerable for storm and icings out there. Very well possible that he lost power individually, while the rest of the area is unaffected.

binzing
Dec15-08, 06:06 AM
We woke up to a little snow on Saturday, and may get more.

turbo
Dec15-08, 08:01 AM
Sorry - I have been spending a LOT of time with my lawyers preparing for trial (starting tomorrow).

We often lose power out here in the boonies, but last spring/summer the power company went on an aggressive limb-trimming campaign and that seems to have reduced the number of tree-branch shorts considerably.

SticksandStones
Dec15-08, 08:09 AM
We have a blizzard warning in effect today.

Right now it's -16C with a windchill of -28C. 10 hours ago it was above freezing!

I have a nice 8 hour drive on Thursday, and the signs are showing no snow for that day and it can stay like that!

lisab
Dec15-08, 10:28 AM
Sorry - I have been spending a LOT of time with my lawyers preparing for trial (starting tomorrow).

We often lose power out here in the boonies, but last spring/summer the power company went on an aggressive limb-trimming campaign and that seems to have reduced the number of tree-branch shorts considerably.

Good luck at trial, turbo!

LightbulbSun
Dec15-08, 10:44 AM
I was in the dark for 60 hours. I didn't get power back until yesterday around 3PM. It was really bad here. You could hear tree limbs falling and you could see white flashes that looked like lightning in the sky from all the transformers blowing out. When our power went out you could hear a "pop."

A lot of the ice has already melted from the warm temperatures yesterday. All you can hear outside is the ice crashing to the surface. One of the worse ice storms I've endured.

fuzzyfelt
Dec15-08, 10:47 AM
Good luck at trial, turbo!

Yes, good luck, Turbo.

Evo
Dec15-08, 11:39 AM
I was in the dark for 60 hours. I didn't get power back until yesterday around 3PM. It was really bad here. You could hear tree limbs falling and you could see white flashes that looked like lightning in the sky from all the transformers blowing out. When our power went out you could hear a "pop."

A lot of the ice has already melted from the warm temperatures yesterday. All you can hear outside is the ice crashing to the surface. One of the worse ice storms I've endured.I do not wish to go through anotherof those, almost 2 weeks without power. Since then, the power company has kept a very aggressive tree pruning policy.

Borek
Dec15-08, 03:05 PM
Sorry - I have been spending a LOT of time with my lawyers preparing for trial (starting tomorrow).

No idea what is going on - but good luck as well!

turbo
Dec15-08, 08:07 PM
Good luck at trial, turbo!Thanks, lisab! My lawyers are working on a contingent-fee-basis so if I don't win, they don't get paid. It's a pretty clear-cut wrongful-termination case under the ADA, so I have to trust in their skill and experience. It helps my confidence that the lead lawyer in my case is the president of the Maine Employment Lawyers Association and has won the largest employment law damage award in the history of the state.

It's pretty grueling preparing for trial, getting cross-examined in mock trials, etc (and having to live through that crap over and over again in my mind), but it's coming to a close.

turbo
Dec15-08, 08:10 PM
Yes, good luck, Turbo.Thanks, Fi! My former boss counter-sued claiming that I severely damaged his company by steering a potential client to a competitor. I did no such thing, nor have they any evidence (message pads, emails, computer records, emails, etc) to support that made-up claim. They dropped that today - the day before trial begins - it would have made them look quite desperate and dishonest to float that claim.

hypatia
Dec19-08, 08:30 AM
We are really getting socked hard this morning, this is the worse Fall snow I can recall. about 7 inches on the ground{2 per hour}, due to stop around 2 pm. On the up side, I HAVE A SNOW DAY !!!!!!

Borek
Dec19-08, 09:23 AM
Still nothing here. But I have this picture taken in March.

http://www.bpp.com.pl/IMG/snowing.jpg

George Jones
Dec19-08, 09:33 AM
I just looked at my local weather forcast. For Sunday, it says "A few flurries ... close to 15 cm"

15 cm is 6 inches.

LightbulbSun
Dec19-08, 11:01 AM
Starting to snow here. Visibility is quickly dropping. This is going to be one fun event. Lots of moisture for this storm to strengthen.

I heard reports out of Buffalo that there experiencing blizzard conditions. Visibility pretty much at zero.

LightbulbSun
Dec19-08, 11:44 AM
In a matter of 40 minutes, we almost have a half inch of accumulation, and this is not the heaviest part of the storm!

LightbulbSun
Dec19-08, 11:52 AM
Visibility is still getting worse. Anything 1/4 mile out cannot be seen with the unaided eye anymore.

Astronuc
Dec19-08, 12:01 PM
We have a snow emergency. The police have been driving up and down the main road and ordering people to remove their cars or they will be towed.

We are expected to have a foot (30 cm) - give or take.

wildman
Dec19-08, 12:07 PM
Thanks, Fi! My former boss counter-sued claiming that I severely damaged his company by steering a potential client to a competitor. I did no such thing, nor have they any evidence (message pads, emails, computer records, emails, etc) to support that made-up claim. They dropped that today - the day before trial begins - it would have made them look quite desperate and dishonest to float that claim.

Turbo, open a thread and tell us about it when its all over.

LightbulbSun
Dec19-08, 12:57 PM
We have a snow emergency. The police have been driving up and down the main road and ordering people to remove their cars or they will be towed.

We are expected to have a foot (30 cm) - give or take.



From NWS Albany

...INTENSE SNOWFALL RATES WILL RESULT IN VERY HAZARDOUS TRAVEL
CONDITIONS INTO THIS EVENING...

WIDESPREAD SNOW...HEAVY AT TIMES...WILL CONTINUE TO FALL ACROSS
ALL OF EAST CENTRAL NEW YORK AND ADJACENT WESTERN NEW ENGLAND
THROUGH THE REST OF THIS AFTERNOON AND INTO THIS EVENING.
SNOWFALL RATES OF 1 TO 3 INCHES PER HOUR WILL OCCUR DURING THIS
TIME...WHICH WILL SEVERELY HAMPER THE EVENING COMMUTE. THE HEAVY
SNOW WILL ALSO REDUCE THE VISIBILITY TO LESS THAN ONE QUARTER MILE
AT TIMES. EXTREME CAUTION SHOULD BE USED WHILE DRIVING ON AREA
ROADS.


The dry slot in Ohio will hamper snowfall totals in BGM.

LightbulbSun
Dec19-08, 01:07 PM
We already have 2" of snow accumulation. It's coming down at over an inch per hour now.

hypatia
Dec19-08, 01:38 PM
It finally stopped here, with 10 inches. I've unburied my car 3 times, due to drifting. I must admit, when I have a minute to pause from shoveling, it is just so beautiful.
Now the wind is howling, and I half to go carve out a potty path for the dog:blushing:

Evo
Dec19-08, 01:46 PM
It finally stopped here, with 10 inches. I've unburied my car 3 times, due to drifting. I must admit, when I have a minute to pause from shoveling, it is just so beautiful.
Now the wind is howling, and I half to go carve out a potty path for the dog:blushing:Heheh, I remember one deep snow and my little dog went out and fell through the snow and I couldn't see him. He managed to surface, but he was freaked out.

LightbulbSun
Dec19-08, 02:04 PM
As of 3PM here, we have 3.06" of snow accumulation. Still coming down at over an inch per hour.

Astronuc
Dec19-08, 04:54 PM
We have about 6'' (15 cm) now, and still snowing. Nice powder from small flakes.

cristo
Dec19-08, 05:07 PM
I wish it was snowing here but, as usual, it's just raining. Pretty depressing, if you ask me!

LightbulbSun
Dec19-08, 05:29 PM
As of 6PM here, we have 5.75" of snow accumulation. It's starting to slow down in intensity a bit, but it's still coming down pretty good. The roads are treacherous. We've got some nice drifting snow from the winds.

bassplayer142
Dec19-08, 05:44 PM
We just got more then a foot just north of Detroit. What a pain to do the driveway...

LightbulbSun
Dec19-08, 06:06 PM
Just did another measurement. We have 6.25" of snow accumulation. The intensity of the snowfall has tapered off dramatically over the past two hours. Snowfall rates are now only 1/2 inch per hour. I'm calling for 7-8" when all set and done.

Astronuc
Dec20-08, 12:32 PM
I'm giving away free snow. Come take us much as you want.

We had about 10 inches (25 cm) of snow. I've already shoveled what feels like tons, and I've still got a little more cleanup to do.

turbo
Dec20-08, 12:41 PM
I'm giving away free snow. Come take us much as you want.

We had about 10 inches (25 cm) of snow. I've already shoveled what feels like tons, and I've still got a little more cleanup to do.We got a dusting (1-2") overnight. Most of it played out over the Gulf of Maine. I hope more storms track south this year. We got well over 10 feet of the white stuff last winter and I'm hoping for no repeat.

Evo
Dec20-08, 01:06 PM
We're just FREEZING here. Tomorrow's HIGH will be 15 below zero F with the wind chill.

Andre
Dec20-08, 01:29 PM
We're just FREEZING here. Tomorrow's HIGH will be 15 below zero F with the wind chill.

Have a bit of our heat wave, about 45-50F here

LightbulbSun
Dec20-08, 01:44 PM
Well Astro, consider yourself fortunate for tomorrow. My area and southern Saratoga county look to hit the jackpot from tomorrow's storm.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY
113 PM EST SAT DEC 20 2008

NYZ048>050-210215-
/O.UPG.KALY.WS.A.0014.081221T0900Z-081222T1200Z/
/O.NEW.KALY.WS.W.0014.081221T0900Z-081222T0300Z/
WESTERN SCHENECTADY-EASTERN SCHENECTADY-SOUTHERN SARATOGA-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...DELANSON...ESPERANCE...DUANESBURG...
SCHENECTADY...ROTTERDAM...BALLSTON SPA...MECHANICVILLE...
WATERFORD
113 PM EST SAT DEC 20 2008

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM TO 10 PM EST SUNDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN ALBANY HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WARNING FOR HEAVY SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 4 AM TO 10 PM
EST SUNDAY. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

THE NEXT WINTER STORM WILL BRING 5 TO 10 INCHES OF SNOW TO
SARATOGA AND SCHENECTADY COUNTIES. THE HIGHER AMOUNTS ARE LIKELY
OVER WESTERN SCHENECTADY COUNTY. SNOW FALL RATES ON SUNDAY COULD
EXCEED 1 INCH PER HOUR.

WINDS SUNDAY WILL INCREASE TO 15 TO 25 MPH OVER THE HIGHER
ELEVATIONS RESULTING IN BLOWING AND DRIFTING OF SNOW.


More snow and low visibility tomorrow.

Evo
Dec20-08, 02:24 PM
Heh, that's where I used to live. I got caught in a whiteout once.

SticksandStones
Dec20-08, 03:19 PM
We got a dusting (1-2") overnight. Most of it played out over the Gulf of Maine. I hope more storms track south this year. We got well over 10 feet of the white stuff last winter and I'm hoping for no repeat.

An area just south of my school is known for getting over 16 feet a year on average. No idea how they put up with it. I'd go crazy after a while.

Redbelly98
Dec20-08, 03:33 PM
If it's snowing, then it's time to get the Christmas display ready ...

http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/redbelly98/PhysicsForums/th_RedbellyAvatar_XMas_anim04.gif

Evo
Dec20-08, 04:57 PM
If it's snowing, then it's time to get the Christmas display ready ...

http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/redbelly98/PhysicsForums/th_RedbellyAvatar_XMas_anim04.gifLove it!!! I still think you need antlers, like my friends here.

LightbulbSun
Dec20-08, 05:09 PM
Heh, that's where I used to live. I got caught in a whiteout once.

Really?

Evo
Dec20-08, 06:17 PM
Really?Yeah, Ballston Spa.

Redbelly98
Dec20-08, 06:56 PM
Love it!!! I still think you need antlers, like my friends here.

What, you think I can just magically sprout antlers because somebody thinks it would look cool? How silly!

"Dammit Jim. I'm a woodpecker, not a reindeer!" http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EYQdno88PJk/R_9gdheLVzI/AAAAAAAAAIw/lvfACwLKnhw/s320/trek10945845.jpg

Evo
Dec20-08, 06:59 PM
What, you think I can just magically sprout antlers because somebody thinks it would look cool? How silly!

"Dammit Jim. I'm a woodpecker, not a reindeer!" http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_EYQdno88PJk/R_9gdheLVzI/AAAAAAAAAIw/lvfACwLKnhw/s320/trek10945845.jpg:rofl: <snort> :rofl:

George Jones
Dec20-08, 07:10 PM
Here's what the national weather service says is in store for me tomorrow night:

WINTER STORM WARNING: Saint John and County. Issued at 3:28 PM AST SATURDAY 20 DECEMBER 2008

HEAVY SNOWFALL UP TO 30 CENTIMETRES WITH STRONG WINDS AND AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF NEAR ZERO VISIBILITIES IN BLOWING SNOW EXPECTED SUNDAY NIGHT. THIS IS A WARNING THAT DANGEROUS WINTER WEATHER CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED IN THESE REGIONS. MONITOR WEATHER CONDITIONS..LISTEN FOR UPDATED STATEMENTS.

30 cm is 12 inches.

Ivan Seeking
Dec20-08, 07:16 PM
Portland [Janus], Oregon, is getting hammered right now; probably 8" today and another 4" tomorrow.

hypatia
Dec20-08, 07:25 PM
We will get our first Winter storm starting around 6 am tomorrow. Its predicted to add another 4 inches on top our 10 inches left by our fall storm.
I hope everyone has a wonderful Solstice, do something special.

lisab
Dec20-08, 08:58 PM
Portland [Janus], Oregon, is getting hammered right now; probably 8" today and another 4" tomorrow.

And further north where I am (Seattle area), we're also getting hammered. Lots of snow plus a wind storm coming through about midnight. Wind storms = power outages. YUCK!

Redbelly98
Dec20-08, 09:07 PM
And further north where I am (Seattle area), we're also getting hammered.

We all got hammered last night too ...
YESH!! drunk posting! <hic>

I love you guys!!! <hic>

Janus
Dec20-08, 10:15 PM
Portland [Janus], Oregon, is getting hammered right now; probably 8" today and another 4" tomorrow.

And after that we're supposed to get freezing rain, and since we live in the NE part of the city, we will likely get hit hard (cold East winds blowing out the Columbia Gorge.)

We went out earlier, got some groceries, and had the bad luck to find out that the car's battery needs to be replaced. After leaving the store it wouldn't turn the car over.(cold always brings out the worst in a car battery; it hadn't been giving me any trouble until now) Luckily, we were able to get a jump and made it home.

We just got home and got a call from my daughter asking if I could pick her up. She had gone out sledding with friends earlier and had been waiting at a bus stop for bus that didn't seem to be coming. (by this time it was snowing hard and about 19° F) I wentback out to the car and it wouldn't turn over again(yep, definitely time for a new battery). So I defaulted to the back-up car. (The 91' Civic we park in the street) . Unfortunately, the Honda does not have a working heater/defroster. It did have a good battery however, and started. Had an anxious moment as to whether or not I'd be able to plow through the drift that had formed around the car even with chains, but got out and was able to get my daughter home, constantly wiping the inside of the wind shield the whole time to keep it from frosting over.

Now I'm sitting at the computer listening to the wind howl and rattle the windows.

hypatia
Dec21-08, 12:37 AM
Janus, I'm glad daughter and you are home safe. I so dislike winter driving, and wish we were allowed to wear chains. My son had to come get the metal detector and his spare key, after loosing his keys while using a snow blower. Haven't heard if he found them yet.
Nice, well mannered snow has started to fall again here. Very lovely.

offtheleft
Dec21-08, 12:45 AM
i HATE the snow :(

the day before yesterday, my mom put all new tires on my car. new tires + snow = BAD. especially when theyre summer tires LOL i was all over the road :( than, this morning when i was getting ready for work, my e-brake was frozen! UGH

Andre
Dec21-08, 06:08 AM
And further north where I am (Seattle area), we're also getting hammered. Lots of snow plus a wind storm coming through about midnight. Wind storms = power outages. YUCK!

Winds seem to have diminished, Lisa, but now it's freezing rain. Not so good for power lines either. :frown:

OmCheeto
Dec21-08, 11:59 AM
i HATE the snow :(

the day before yesterday, my mom put all new tires on my car. new tires + snow = BAD. especially when theyre summer tires LOL i was all over the road :( than, this morning when i was getting ready for work, my e-brake was frozen! UGH


We went out earlier, got some groceries, and had the bad luck to find out that the car's battery needs to be replaced.

Speaking of cars, their proclivity to break down at the worst time, and frozen e-brakes.
On Monday, I thought I had a frozen emergency brake shoe. I drove all the way to work, only to find out that my rear wheel bearing had disintegrated. I spent the next 36 hours fixing it myself, out in the snow and wind. All of the auto shops had lines around the block getting geared up for our little winter storm.

http://home.europa.com/~garry/pf_IMG_0002_2008_12_21_8am_flake_watch.JPG

But all is better now.

Astronuc
Dec21-08, 01:37 PM
I'm having a pre-Christmas special. Free snow! :biggrin:

We're having flurries and snow showers - with a few inches of accumulation so far.


We just saw what looked like a small Cooper's Hawk sitting on the bird feeder outside the window next to the computers. By the time my wife was set to take a picture, he/she flew away. Plummage was grey on top (posterior) and white with brown speckles/splotches on the breast.

turbo
Dec21-08, 04:26 PM
Looking at picking up maybe 18" tonight. No joy.

Ivan Seeking
Dec21-08, 06:16 PM
We were supposed to be a foot deep in snow right now, but a warm front crept in, the temps jumped, and instead we are getting lots of rain. As much as I like the snow, based on the roar of the creek, snow would have been a bit much. We would certainly be stranded right now - with a foot of snow, we can't even get up the driveway. One year I tried to get up the driveway in a heavy snow with the pickup truck, and the truck ended up sitting in the flower beds for two weeks.

Janus
Dec21-08, 06:25 PM
Here's what we're getting right now:

http://home.earthlink.net/~parvey/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/snow.jpg

Here's some of the ice build up that we got from the freezing rain earlier this morning:

http://home.earthlink.net/~parvey/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/ice.jpg

Ivan Seeking
Dec21-08, 06:29 PM
I heard the locks got 18" yesterday!

No power outages yet?

George Jones
Dec21-08, 06:58 PM
Blizzardy, white-out conditions here right now.

OAQfirst
Dec21-08, 07:04 PM
I'm expecting up to 20" overnight. It was almost 30 below last night. My car would not start. I had to bring the battery in.

This is a bad time to be homeless. I knew one homeless guy a few years back who lost all of his fingers in similar weather. There's also a gull that watches for me; it's missing it's right leg. But I haven't seen it lately. I hope it manages the winter safely.

mgb_phys
Dec21-08, 07:19 PM
Vancouver police have blockaded some roads and are urging motorists to stay off the roads unless absolutely necessary as the Lower Mainland continues to be pummeled by snow.
This is because of a forecast of 10cm of snow and temperatures of -4C !!!

Janus
Dec21-08, 09:19 PM
I heard the locks got 18" yesterday!

No power outages yet?

Not for us, but my Mother-in-law just called and said that she has lost hers. If it's not back on by morning I'll go pick her up and bring her to our place.

lisab
Dec21-08, 10:25 PM
Extraordinary snow here. Walking through my neighborhood, I can't tell where the street ends and the curb begins. It's just all a beautiful snow blanket...an unusual week, so much snow here in the Seattle area!

Janus
Dec21-08, 11:55 PM
Extraordinary snow here. Walking through my neighborhood, I can't tell where the street ends and the curb begins. It's just all a beautiful snow blanket...an unusual week, so much snow here in the Seattle area!


I had a two foot drift in front of our driveway today. spent a good part of the morning getting rid of it and the clearing the driveway so that I could get the car out if needed. It started snowing again about 4 pm, and now I have another drift, though not quite as large. We might get more snow tonight so we'll see how it is in the morning.
The good news is that my Mother-in-law's power just came back on.

turbo
Dec22-08, 12:46 AM
Still snowing steadily, and we have well over a foot on the ground. I got up to re-build the fire in the wood-stove and may have to get up again in a few hours to help my wife get out of the driveway and head to work.

OmCheeto
Dec22-08, 01:40 AM
Still snowing steadily, and we have well over a foot on the ground. I got up to re-build the fire in the wood-stove and may have to get up again in a few hours to help my wife get out of the driveway and head to work.

The weatherman said we haven't had this much snow in 40 years. One of my employee's just called and asked if he had to go to work. I checked on-line and I was quite surprised that non-essential personnel don't have to go to work in the morning. Bus service has even been canceled. I've been working there for 25 years and I've never seen them do this before. :surprised

This afternoon, the "Flake-Watch '08" TV crew interviewed some people who had driven all the way from Denver. They said this area was the worst they saw it on the whole trip. There is a 50 mile stretch of the interstate that has been shut down for 24 hours, and they expect it to be shut down for another 24. :eek:

On the upside though, tomorrow will be the first day I've had off since July. :smile:

Ivan Seeking
Dec22-08, 01:57 AM
It would be pretty tough getting up that hill! Do you know if the tram can operate under these conditions?

OmCheeto
Dec22-08, 02:22 AM
It would be pretty tough getting up that hill! Do you know if the tram can operate under these conditions?

They are recommending to anyone who has to go to work that they park on the waterfront and ride the tram to the hill. I believe it was designed and built by a Swiss company, so I imagine that it's in it's element right now.

After it had been operational for a few months, I found that it was designed to operate in 70 mph sustained winds. They shut it down though when the winds exceed 50 mph. People kept barfing. Quite the e-ticket ride on a windy day. :biggrin:

Ivan Seeking
Dec22-08, 02:24 AM
Quite the e-ticket ride

That's a common expression of mine that not many people understand any more. :biggrin:

OmCheeto
Dec22-08, 12:16 PM
That's a common expression of mine that not many people understand any more. :biggrin:

According to wiki, they've a new "e-ticket". Although now the 'e' stands for "electronic".

But back to the weather.
The snow is slowing down after dumping another 6" since last night.

Yesterday at 8am:
http://home.europa.com/~garry/pf_IMG_0002_2008_12_21_8am_flake_watch.JPG


Today at 8am:
http://home.europa.com/~garry/pf_IMG_0002_2008_12_22_8am_flake_watch.JPG

And yes Evo, that's an old bedsheet stapled and bungied to my carport. I did try and use my most christmassy colored one on the front. :blushing:

hypatia
Dec22-08, 12:22 PM
I just had to buy a roof shovel, I had over 13 inches on my roof, and ice damns were forming. But on the bright side, shoveling the roof is more fun then the driveway.:biggrin:

Evo
Dec22-08, 12:36 PM
Wow, I am so glad the snow and ice missed us. The extreme cold is bad enough. Having to dig out is just miserable.

turbo
Dec22-08, 12:52 PM
I just got back in from digging out of 18" of the stuff. The worst part is that the snow was fine and light, and the wind is howling, switching directions and gusting frequently. No matter what way I wanted to blow the snow, about half the time the wind wanted to drive it back into my face. Brr.

Astronuc
Dec22-08, 01:02 PM
We have an accumulation of about 12-14 inches (30-35 cm).

Last night the low was 10°F (-12°C), and this afternoon, the high temperature might get to blistering 24°F (-4°C).

Tonight our low temperature is expected to be ~ 5°F (-15°C).

Janus
Dec22-08, 01:07 PM
My two foot drift was back this morning. Just finished clearing the driveway back out. Unfortunately, I lived on a dead end street that the city hasn't gotten around to plowing yet, and even if I get out of the driveway, I might not be able to get to the main street.

I did walk over to NAPA auto parts and got a new battery. (up to now I was prepared to jump the car by using the battery from the Honda if I really needed to try to get out.)

Here's what it looks like today at 11:00 am, and it's still snowing.
The red car in the fore ground is the Honda, The other car is in the carport.
Portland may recycle, but apparently not in the snow, as our blue recycling container has not been touched.

http://home.earthlink.net/~parvey/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/snow3.jpg


P.S. I just heard the the City of Gresham, A suburb just East of the Portland has declared a state of emergency. Also, the The Interstate bridge lift span is frozen and they can't lift it. This means that certain river traffic won't be able to get up or down the Columbia river.

hypatia
Dec22-08, 01:16 PM
The city informed us that no side streets will be plowed this year, due to cut backs. So I shoveled the front of my house, then put one of the cars out there. THEN a snowplow comes by and ...yup..plows in my car.
As I stand in disbelief, shaking my fist and ..maybe cussing a bit. A neighbor comes out and explains to me that our street will always be plowed. Its a school bus and emergency route.

Evo
Dec22-08, 01:28 PM
The city informed us that no side streets will be plowed this year, due to cut backs. So I shoveled the front of my house, then put one of the cars out there. THEN a snowplow comes by and ...yup..plows in my car.
As I stand in disbelief, shaking my fist and ..maybe cussing a bit. A neighbor comes out and explains to me that our street will always be plowed. Its a school bus and emergency route.OH NO!!!

I remember so many times I would kill myself shoveling my driveway so I could back my car out, and just as soon as I finish, the snow plow would come through and push 3 feet of heavy ice and snow across the bottom of my driveway so I couldn't back out without shoveling again. That plowed snow is like trying to shovel a brick wall.

Andre
Dec22-08, 01:38 PM
OH NO!!!

I remember so many times I would kill myself shoveling my driveway so i could back my car out, and just as soon as i finish, the snow plow would come through and push 3 feet of heavy ice and snow across the bottom of my driveway so I could back out without shoveling again. That plowed snow is like trying to shovel a brick wall.


I know all about that. We did have some very friendly county payed professional snow shovelers, who managed to aim their shovel to the next hill, keeping our driveway clear.

It's not cheap though

Borek
Dec22-08, 01:39 PM
At least now you know you don't have to shovel the street.

Always look at the bright side of life :wink:

turbo
Dec22-08, 02:08 PM
My pet peeve is the way the town applies "sand" to the roads for traction. Often the "sand" contains stones of an inch or more, which are h-e-double hockey sticks on windshields. Then the plow trucks sail through at speed, winging back the snow banks, and tossing the sand and stones onto lawns. Then, when it gets slippery after more traffic has compressed the remaining snow, they "sand" again. I need to start a sand pit! It's a racket.

OmCheeto
Dec22-08, 02:18 PM
At least now you know you don't have to shovel the street.

Always look at the bright side of life :wink:

I hate having OCD. I shoveled my street again this morning after the weatherman said we wouldn't have any more snow.
Now it's snowing buckets again. :cry:
I think I'll let the mailman fend for himself.
Gads.

Bright side?
hmmm......
There's a chicken roasting in the oven.
I've got a nice warm fire going.
Fresh coffee.
I got the day off.
And they don't sell roof shovels within 100 miles. :cool:

Jimmy Snyder
Dec22-08, 02:26 PM
This is the time of year when I start thinking about Aruba. My wife said we were leaving the country if McCain won, and I said we would leave if Obama won. So it was inevitable that it would come to this, yet another all expenses paid two week vacation to one happy island. While you guys are shovelling the snow out of your driveways, we'll be shovelling the snow out of our Margaritta glasses. Right now I gotta go take a look in my driveway. Someone left a lifesize ice scupture of my car there.

turbo
Dec22-08, 02:29 PM
Right now I gotta go take a look in my driveway. Someone left a lifesize ice scupture of my car there.I just had huge piles of snow. Imagine my joy when I started digging around in the piles and found nice vehicles buried in there.

edward
Dec22-08, 03:42 PM
Gees, I would hate to think this is all happening because a humming bird saw its Shadow at my house last Friday. :smile:

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/147/copyof1001050jpghumminghe9.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyof1001050jpghumminghe9.jpg)

We had a freeze warning the night before and I had just uncover the plants when this critter showed up.

Evo
Dec22-08, 03:44 PM
Oh how cute!! This was last week? Where do you live, because I want to be there!!!

turbo
Dec22-08, 03:46 PM
Gees, I would hate to think this is all happening because a humming bird saw it's Shadow at my house last Friday. :smile:

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/147/copyof1001050jpghumminghe9.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyof1001050jpghumminghe9.jpg)

We had a freeze warning the night before and I had just uncover the plants when this critter showed up.That means 30 more weeks of winter, edward! I'm beginning to feel some animosity toward you - hummingbirds and petunias, indeed!

Astronuc
Dec22-08, 03:47 PM
P.S. I just heard the the City of Gresham, A suburb just East of the Portland has declared a state of emergency. Also, the The Interstate bridge lift span is frozen and they can't lift it. This means that certain river traffic won't be able to get up or down the Columbia river. We had a state of emergency on Friday. Cars that we parked on snow emergency routes/streets had to be removed or they were towed.


Janus's post also reminded me of the situation about some (~12-15) years ago when the NE US had record cold weather with temps down around -20 to -10 F. Coal piles on barges and at coal-fired power plants froze, some rivers froze and so barges would deliver oil or coal, natural gas was diverted to heating and away from gas-fired power plants, and the reserve margins on the electrical grid was down to about 0.2%, rather than the normal value (which I don't recall at the moment). If any large plant had gone off-line, much of the NE was at risk of a blackout. The nuclear power plants kept the grid up!

OmCheeto
Dec22-08, 03:48 PM
Ah haha!
How appropriate.
My neighbors lawn ornament has turned into Rudolf the Rednecked Rainslug.

http://home.europa.com/~garry/pf_IMG_0001_rrnrs_2008_12_22_1pm.JPG

We are famous for our slugs (http://www.slugqueeneugene.com/default.shtml). :biggrin:

edward
Dec22-08, 03:50 PM
Oh how cute!! This was last week? Where do you live, because I want to be there!!!

I am In Tucson AZ. We had a freeze warning the night before so I had covered the plants. The humming bird waited around as I was uncovering them.

Astronuc
Dec22-08, 03:51 PM
Gees, I would hate to think this is all happening because a humming bird saw its Shadow at my house last Friday. :smile:

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/147/copyof1001050jpghumminghe9.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyof1001050jpghumminghe9.jpg)

We had a freeze warning the night before and I had just uncover the plants when this critter showed up. Personally, I think Edward and bird faked it with a set of high intensity lamps. :biggrin: How much did you pay the bird?

I bet the bird is on his way to Mexico for the winter.

edward
Dec22-08, 04:52 PM
Personally, I think Edward and bird faked it with a set of high intensity lamps. :biggrin: How much did you pay the bird?

I bet the bird is on his way to Mexico for the winter.

The bird was happy with a nectar breakfast. :smile: The migration patterns have been changing. There were a lot of birds that wintered over here last year instead of flying on down south.

wildman
Dec22-08, 06:23 PM
Actually two species are quite common here in Tucson in the winter, Anna's and Costa's. In addition, Broad-billed, Magnificent and Blue-Chinned hummers are seen in small numbers in the winter. It is a lot different here than the rest of the country.

Astronuc
Dec22-08, 06:42 PM
The bird was happy with a nectar breakfast. :smile: The migration patterns have been changing. There were a lot of birds that wintered over here last year instead of flying on down south. Since we've put out suet and keep the bird feeders full, we have a lot of birds that hang out here at winter time. It's 20°F and there will be all sorts of seed eaters out.

We have a neighborhood redbellied woodpecker who visits our birdfeeders. We have chickadees, titmice, goldfinches (with winter plummage), cardinals, various finches who hang out in our yard. I wonder where the heck they go at night.

Yesterday we had a falcon (merlin perhaps) or small hawk sitting on the iron shepherd's hook from which we hang the bird feeders. It just for a couple of minutes and then took off as soon as my wife was about to snap a picture.

I saw a kingfisher about 1 month ago down by the river. It looked like a bluish-grey woodpecker. It's a cool looking bird.

wildman
Dec23-08, 09:02 AM
Since we've put out suet and keep the bird feeders full, we have a lot of birds that hang out here at winter time. It's 20°F and there will be all sorts of seed eaters out.

We have a neighborhood redbellied woodpecker who visits our birdfeeders. We have chickadees, titmice, goldfinches (with winter plummage), cardinals, various finches who hang out in our yard. I wonder where the heck they go at night.

Yesterday we had a falcon (merlin perhaps) or small hawk sitting on the iron shepherd's hook from which we hang the bird feeders. It just for a couple of minutes and then took off as soon as my wife was about to snap a picture.

I saw a kingfisher about 1 month ago down by the river. It looked like a bluish-grey woodpecker. It's a cool looking bird.

Watching birds is fun! No matter where you go, there they are.

Astronuc
Dec23-08, 09:40 AM
It was a balmy 0°F (-18°C) at the back of the house at daybreak. At the moment, the temperature has warmed to 18°F (-7.8°C) in the back and slightly warmer 33°F (0.5°C) on the sunnier SE corner of the house.

We are supposed to have snow/sleet/rain tonight, fog with ice then rain tomorrow, but sunny with wind on Thursday.

Ivan Seeking
Dec24-08, 05:43 PM
9vPfOjAw5Z0

Redbelly98
Dec24-08, 05:48 PM
Since it's snowing, why not come to PF chat (open today and tomorrow):
http://www.physicsforums.com/chat/flashchat.php

lisab
Dec24-08, 10:42 PM
Since it's snowing, why not come to PF chat (open today and tomorrow):
http://www.physicsforums.com/chat/flashchat.php

Oh the weather outside is frightful,
But the fire is so delightful.
And since you are stuck where you're at,
Come and chat, come and chat, come and chat!

Ivan Seeking
Dec25-08, 01:55 AM
Oh the weather outside is frightful,
But the fire is so delightful.
And since you are stuck where you're at,
Come and chat, come and chat, come and chat!

There must be an award somewhere around here for "first PF Christmas tune"!

Janus
Dec25-08, 03:35 PM
Well, its official, we have a White Christmas. We still have snow from earlier in the week and it is now snowing hard. It's the first truly white Christmas I've had since I was a kid in Minnesota.

Borek
Dec25-08, 03:53 PM
Still no snow here. Perhaps traces tomorrow.

OmCheeto
Dec25-08, 04:45 PM
We had some nice trashcan cone-head snow sculpture at work yesterday

http://home.europa.com/~garry/pf_Snapshot_2008-12-25_14-15-52.jpg

I thought the snow was over with this morning so I spend 6 hours digging myself out and clearing a path for the mailman(....again.... I'll never learn)

http://home.europa.com/~garry/pf_Snapshot_2008-12-25%20_14-20-36.jpg

Of course, I was mistaken. 1 hour later, black was once again white.

http://home.europa.com/~garry/pf_Snapshot_2008-12-25_14-28-37.jpg

The weatherman said this morning that the previous record snow depth on a Christmas day was 1".

I think we beat the record. :smile:

Merry Christmas everyone!

Astronuc
Dec31-08, 11:41 AM
We're having snow - again. It's about 4 inches (10 cm) and still snowing.

I have to go shovel the driveway.

Redbelly98
Dec31-08, 11:53 AM
We (central NJ) are getting it too. It's about 3 millimeters (1/8 inch) and still coming down.

I have to go sweep the front steps.

Astronuc
Dec31-08, 11:57 AM
We have a lot of bird activity at our bird feeders. Usually the activity picks up when it snows.

I have yet to see a green-haired redbelly.

Doc Al
Dec31-08, 11:57 AM
We (central NJ) are getting it too. It's about 3 millimeters (1/8 inch) and still coming down.

Yep, seems to be coming down pretty hard. Sounds like I may as well go home! I can't work under these conditions.

D H
Dec31-08, 12:41 PM
Ahhh. 64 F here and sunny.

turbo
Dec31-08, 12:47 PM
Sunny and 25 deg F with thin cirrus. The chickadees are hitting the suet and the seed-feeder pretty hard. Maybe they know something about upcoming weather.....?

turbo
Dec31-08, 02:03 PM
No more cirrus - pretty socked in, now with snow on the way and a cold snap following. Night will be in the single digits or lower for the next few days. I love my wood stove!

CylonMath
Dec31-08, 02:26 PM
Hey , here there is only slight rain and no snow outthere , it sucks.

Redbelly98
Dec31-08, 02:59 PM
We have a lot of bird activity at our bird feeders. Usually the activity picks up when it snows.

I have yet to see a green-haired redbelly.

They're quite rare. Good thing I'm no longer in the market for a mate.

Yep, seems to be coming down pretty hard. Sounds like I may as well go home! I can't work under these conditions.

Sorry, the sun has come out and melted everything on the west side of the house. A very light dusting remains on the eastward side.

Borek
Jan5-09, 10:50 AM
No, it is not snowing. But temperature plummeted down to zero.

Zero Fahrenheit.

And it is only 6 p.m. with clear sky, it can get even colder tonight.

Andre
Jan5-09, 11:00 AM
:yuck: And your zero is coming my way.

turbo
Jan5-09, 11:56 AM
The ice-fishermen here would love some sub-zero weather, BUT they need heavy rain first. The snow-pack insulates what thin ice there is, preventing deeper freezing, and as a result many large bodies of fresh water are unsafe for fishing. Because of this and the poor economy, sales of equipment, bait, etc are way down. I don't think hopes for heavy rain are going to be fulfilled. We have about a foot of very crusty snow (more in the north), that the rain would run off before saturating, and it takes a lot of warm rain to melt a foot of snow. Ah, well.

mgb_phys
Jan5-09, 12:17 PM
I've just spent 2hours shoveling another foot of 'turning to rain later' off the drive.
The snow banks are now higher than I am so that's it - I'm now waiting for spring.

larkspur
Jan5-09, 05:38 PM
Turbo, I wish I could send you some of our rain. Here is our forecast:

* From midnight EST /11 PM CST/ tonight through Wednesday morning

* rainfall may be heavy at times beginning late tonight through
Wednesday morning. By Wednesday morning... widespread total
rainfall amounts of three to four inches will be possible
across most of the watch area. In addition... locally higher
amounts will be possible in a few areas.

mgb_phys
Jan5-09, 08:11 PM
It doesn't snow in Vancouver!
http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp185/mgb_phys/car2.jpg If you buy a white car, remember where you parked it!

http://i410.photobucket.com/albums/pp185/mgb_phys/car.jpg Thats a Range Rover (full size SUV) that won't be seen until spring.

larkspur
Jan5-09, 08:28 PM
I can't imagine that much snow!

turbo
Jan5-09, 08:37 PM
I can't imagine that much snow!When I was a kid, a Nor'easter sat on us and delivered 5' of the new stuff in 2 days. Snowmobiles were VERY rare, and were used for rescue purposes, taking people food, kero, etc. Some people in remote parts of town were over 2 weeks getting bulldozed out so they could buy groceries, go to work, etc. I made a LOT of money during those weeks, shoveling out doors and windows, and clearing off peoples' roofs. It wasn't much in today's terms, but my dad earned maybe 50% more than minimum wage and I could easily double his wage on an hourly basis, helping people prevent damage to their property.

Astronuc
Jan10-09, 01:45 PM
More snow - 6-12 inches (15-30 cm).

So, I'm home making another beef roast. :tongue2"

hypatia
Jan10-09, 01:48 PM
I've lost track of how much we are getting, last measure was about 7 inches, that was 2 hours ago. And its still coming down strong.

turbo
Jan10-09, 02:21 PM
Looks like the next weather-maker may pass over the Gulf of Maine, hopefully sparing us. I'm getting really sick of snow. I think the chickadees sense unsettled weather - they are hitting the seed feeders and the suet cage pretty hard today even though it is pretty mild (27 deg , currently). This morning I went out to reload the suet cage, and one of the 'dees was hanging off the bottom of it pecking at the frozen scraps. I walked up to him and held out my handful of fresh suet, and he just went on pecking at the frozen stuff. I held the suet so close to him that when he would pause to glance at me, he could take a bite of the fresh stuff without moving a bit. Nope! He was pretty stubborn. It's nice to see that they remember me. They all look pretty much alike so when a flock comes in, the only way I can tell if they are "regulars" is to approach them. If they flit away hollering "deeee, deeee, deeee", they are newcomers, and if they stay put, they're regulars.

larkspur
Jan10-09, 04:44 PM
Those of you with snow, how about some snow angels and post a photo of your best?:biggrin:

turbo
Jan10-09, 04:53 PM
Those of you with snow, how about some snow angels and post a photo of your best?:biggrin:If you think I'm going to lie on my back in that horrid stuff and flap my arms, you're just nuts. :yuck: If I had done that last March, my wife wouldn't have found me until late April.

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x318/turbo-1/marchhouse.jpg

larkspur
Jan10-09, 05:05 PM
If you think I'm going to lie on my back in that horrid stuff and flap my arms, you're just nuts. :yuck: If I had done that last March, my wife wouldn't have found me until late April.



Looks like the snow is high enough you won't have to lie down. Just lean against a wall of snow and flap your arms.

Borek
Jan10-09, 05:28 PM
lie on my back in that horrid stuff and flap my arms

Ah, so that's an 'angel'. In Poland we flap both hands and legs and we call it an 'eagle'.

OmCheeto
Jan25-09, 11:17 AM
This may go down as the snowiest winter ever.

http://home.europa.com/~garry/pf_3rd_snowfall.jpg

Astronuc
Jan28-09, 04:55 PM
We just had 5-6 inches (13 - 15 cm) of snow with about 1 inch of sleet, then a little freezing rain. It's supposed to turn back to sleet then snow some time during the night. Right now it's a light drizzle, and the backyard temperature is about 30°F (-1°C).

We are probably having a more normal winter, but not yet near a record accumulation of snow. We had a record snow fall several years ago, with an accumulation of over 5 ft.

Syracuse has had ~110 inches of snow so far this season, which is about the normal total for an entire season.

We're about halfway to looking like turbo's place.

turbo
Jan28-09, 04:59 PM
The storm is coming through here, now. High temp today was 12 deg, and we've already gotten over 6" of snow with totals here in the foothills expected to run 10-18"

turbo
Jan28-09, 06:46 PM
I shoveled a path from the front door to the area of the driveway where my wife parks. That was at 3:30. A little over 4 hours later, and you can't tell that I even touched it. It's coming down hard.

Evo
Jan28-09, 08:34 PM
I am so glad that we are having a relatively dry winter. Very cold, but dry. Last year we had snow every other day.

Turbo, this is 2 years in a row that you are being hit, I feel for you.

Cyrus
Jan28-09, 08:37 PM
I shoveled my drive way last night after coming home from work. I woke up today to find it literally one continuous sheet of ice. Actually, even the main road in my neighborhood was one big sheet of ice - literally. I had the fun of scraping the ice after come home from work today. It must have been a few hundred pounds of ice total that I moved.

Evo
Jan28-09, 08:48 PM
<gah> Ice is the worst. Absolutely the worst.

turbo
Jan28-09, 08:56 PM
I am so glad that we are having a relatively dry winter. Very cold, but dry. Last year we had snow every other day.

Turbo, this is 2 years in a row that you are being hit, I feel for you.The snowmobile clubs and the restaurants, motels, etc, that get income from these heavy snows will benefit. I guess I can spend a few uncomfortable hours clearing this. We are losing mills, service industries, etc at a frightening rate, so the snow is a help for some. Watching local news interviews with snowmobile dealers is a bit odd. People don't have money to trade in and upgrade their sleds, so the local dealerships are trying to scale back on new inventory and concentrate on rebuilds and maintenance. Many local dealerships have gone under, because their franchise agreements require them to buy more sleds (in various value categories) than they can afford to stock.

turbo
Jan28-09, 09:08 PM
<gah> Ice is the worst. Absolutely the worst.We had ice so bad a number of years ago that we had power-crews and tree-crews from many states south of us and many provinces north of us, and still some people never got power back for over a month. I should be happy that this event will be all snow. After the last big ice-storm there was no power to the ophthalmic practice in which I was the network administrator, so I spent my days dragging little under powered generators around to the houses of the doctors who owned the practice, trying to keep their houses heated. It would be dead-still outside, and every gun-shot crack of another big branch or tree failing under the load of ice would make me think "crap! I'll be here again tomorrow and tomorrow".

turbo
Jan29-09, 08:41 PM
We got over a foot of dry, but dense heavily-packed snow overnight. When I got up around in the early morning to feed the fire, I suited up and shoveled a path from our front door to my wife's car and entirely around her car so that she could scrape the snow off the car before heading to work.

The storm, which appeared to be over, still wasn't at that point because she had to do a little more shoveling to clean off her car around 5am. Still, that little Subaru Legacy sedan (with studded snow tires) blasted out through the driveway and the snow-bank and the road, dragging the under-chassis in the snow all the way. If there is anybody here that is in the market for a new car and you have to deal with snow and ice, GET A SUBARU and fit it with studded snows for the winter. Independent symmetrical traction-control and anti-lock-braking combined with skid control cannot be beat. 4WD vehicles with regular transmission/transfer case arrangements can't compete. I can't ski anymore due to bad knees, but when I'm looking for photographic subjects or other driving in the winter, I'm impressed by the number of Subarus that are on the roads around our larger ski resorts. 40 years ago, there were a lot of Volkswagens and Saabs on those roads. No more.

Borek
Feb3-09, 01:00 PM
Was there an ice storm in Kentucky lately?

Astronuc
Feb3-09, 01:18 PM
Was there an ice storm in Kentucky lately? Yes - last week, there was an ice storm from Arkansas eastward through Tennessee and Kentucky. Kentucky had about 700,000 people without electricity service due to downed power lines.

Kentucky Hardest Hit By Deadly Ice Storm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/02/national/main4769197.shtml
State Asks Obama To Speed Federal Aid As Hundreds Of Thousands Still Without Power; Nationwide Death Toll Now 55

Thaw comes slowly to storm-ravaged Kentucky
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090201/ap_on_re_us/winter_storm

We only had 2 cm of sleet/ice on top of 10 cm of snow. All structures and trees were covered in thin layer of ice.

Borek
Feb3-09, 02:16 PM
Thanks.

wolram
Feb3-09, 03:01 PM
Us Brits had a little dusting of snow, it bought road, rail transport to a stand still, schools closed and even Heathrow was closed for a while.

turbo
Feb3-09, 03:16 PM
Us Brits had a little dusting of snow, it bought road, rail transport to a stand still, schools closed and even Heathrow was closed for a while.London's mayor pointed out that you get snow-storms so infrequently, it makes little sense to buy and maintain the heavy equipment necessary to deal with it. He specifically mentioned plow trucks, but of course in a city, once you have plowed the snow into banks, you've got to bring in front-end loaders, etc to transport it somewhere to be dumped. Buying and maintaining such a fleet is a very expensive proposition.

wolram
Feb3-09, 03:25 PM
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iR7p1-FovglATaqWxYPlxqGkf6zw

LONDON (AFP) — The snow storms which paralysed Britain may have cost businesses already battling the credit crunch up to a billion pounds, experts said on Tuesday -- and more blizzards could be still on their way.

A billion pounds would buy a fair few.

Edit

Even if are hard up the tight old twit could buy from here.

http://www.mod-sales.com/

Air
Feb4-09, 08:24 AM
London's mayor pointed out that you get snow-storms so infrequently, it makes little sense to buy and maintain the heavy equipment necessary to deal with it. He specifically mentioned plow trucks, but of course in a city, once you have plowed the snow into banks, you've got to bring in front-end loaders, etc to transport it somewhere to be dumped. Buying and maintaining such a fleet is a very expensive proposition.

'We had the right type of snow, just the wrong type of quantity.'

I quite enjoyed the fact that London came to a halt, was a surprise. Many seemed to be away from the pressure and enjoyed their day.

mgb_phys
Feb4-09, 09:08 AM
London's mayor pointed out that you get snow-storms so infrequently, it makes little sense to buy and maintain the heavy equipment necessary to deal with it.
The streets are ok - the problem is normally the railways, especially the tube.
It's now such a complex mix of government, government owned companies, private companies, maintenance contractors and local authorities that you would have 6 different organizations responsible for clearing the snow around a train.

It was even funnier here, Vancouver airport got a couple of cm of snow. It turns out that Vancouver doesn't do snow removal and de-icing, it's upto the individual airlines to supply their own. Air Canada obviously decided it doesn't snow in Vancouver and didn't have any so was grounded for a couple of days. Hopefully there wont be any snow for the winter olympics next year.

mgb_phys
Feb4-09, 09:11 AM
Even if are hard up the tight old twit could buy from here.
http://www.mod-sales.com/

A bit off topic, but why do the Army have Harley Davidsons?
http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicle/home/19078/Harley_Davidson.htm

wolram
Feb4-09, 10:38 AM
A bit off topic, but why do the Army have Harley Davidsons?
http://www.mod-sales.com/direct/vehicle/home/19078/Harley_Davidson.htm

They buy them for the metal content, in times of hardship they can be melted down.

turbo
Feb5-09, 08:16 PM
Currently, it is below zero (F) and will probably go to 15 below or lower. The wood-stove is getting a work-out! It is a lot easier to maintain an interior temperature than to let it fall and then try to recover. Since I don't have a day-job, I make sure to stay on the job as long as possible every day, so when my wife gets up she is comfortable and can go through her exercise routine, get her caffeine fix, an still have a little quiet time before heading out to work.

cristo
Feb5-09, 09:00 PM
The streets are ok - the problem is normally the railways, especially the tube.

The streets weren't ok; that's why every London bus was taken out of service. The problem was that so many different people are responsible for gritting the roads, and they don't talk to each other. Then, if the bus system doesn't work, tube drivers and people who work in tube stations don't get to work, so couple that with the fact that the ends of most of the lines are outside and you have a huge problem. Quite laughable really, but then what do you expect from a city without a snow plough.

I did have a wry laugh at the Scottish yesterday, though. On Monday, they were calling/emailing news programmes in an outrage when they heard most of the schools in the southeast area were closed due to "a little bit of snow." Come yesterday, though when the snow reached Scotland, they then proceeded to shut their schools!

George Jones
Feb23-09, 07:47 AM
Snow day!

For the first time in my three years here in Saint John, my workplace has shutdown all day and the city buses have been pulled off the streets. By the time the snow finishes, the total accumulation from the storm could be as much as 40 centimetres (16 inches).

Evo
Feb23-09, 07:50 AM
Snow day!

For the first time in my three years here in Saint John, my workplace has shutdown all day and the city buses have been pulled off the streets. By the time the snow finishes, the total accumulation from the storm could be as much as 40 centimetres (16 inches).Good grief, I hope you and your wife do not need to go out in this!

turbo
Feb23-09, 08:58 AM
We got about a foot and a half overnight and it's still coming down lightly. Here is the current view through the living room window.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x318/turbo-1/LivingRoom.jpg

And here is what you see through the kitchen window. If you get close to the window and look up, you can see the pine trees across the road.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x318/turbo-1/Kitchen.jpg

As the snow and ice slide off the roof, a pretty large pile accumulates in front of the house. It's pretty dark in here because of that.

Evo
Feb23-09, 09:06 AM
Ahahaha.

Uhm, I mean, that's dreadful!

turbo
Feb23-09, 02:30 PM
I underestimated. We got 2 feet, more in places where the snow could sift in. I just got done digging everything out. Here is the view under the front eaves where the bird feeders are. We won't see anything out the front windows for at least a month or two. I snapped a shear-pin while snow-blowing and had to replace that, then my wife (who had parked her car at a neighbor's whose place was already plowed out went to pick it up and found that she had left her parking lights on all day - battery was dead and needed to be boosted, and I've got it on a charger right now. What a day! BTW, it has been snowing really hard for about an hour now. I surrender!

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x318/turbo-1/tunnel.jpg

George Jones
Feb23-09, 03:55 PM
Good grief, I hope you and your wife do not need to go out in this!

No one had to go out today.

The last couple of months, work has been hectic. I went in for a few hours yesterday to prepare for today, which, because of the storm, meant that I was really preparing somewhat for tomorrow and Wednesday, so I've had a nice break today.

I spent the day playing with my two-and-a-half-year-old daughter, reading a novel, eating freshly made pakoras, and drinking Earl Grey tea.

Borek
Feb23-09, 04:13 PM
:surprised

This not a thread for me, I need thread "It's melting". Earlier today I had two feet icicles near my front door, but they are gone now - Sun was operating too strong. I am putting wood for fireplace on the outside, close to garden balcony window - yesterday every piece was covered with a centimeter of ice, as wood lies in the place where water drops from the roof. Rain gutter is either frozen somewhere, or it is at a wrong angle. Two years ago it was fixed, and I don't remember problems last year.

heldervelez
Feb24-09, 10:07 PM
Someone said: Global Warming evidence ! :wink:

turbo
Feb25-09, 01:09 AM
Someone said: Global Warming evidence ! :wink:It is evidence (at least circumstantial) of warming. We never get these huge snowfalls unless warm air-masses move in and collide with cold air over the interior. Over the last couple of years, this pattern has established, and it is happening with regularity. Our summers have not gotten warmer (thank God!) but our winters for the last couple of years have been punctuated regularly by incursions of warm, moist air, resulting in blizzards and record snowfall. During our winters, snowfall is negatively correlated to coldness. If we could stay very cold, dominated by Arctic air-masses, our snowfall would be nominal. Climate-change newbies do not know this, nor do they have an appreciation for the context in which this weather might be construed (long-term) as climate.

OmCheeto
Feb25-09, 09:01 AM
It is evidence (at least circumstantial) of warming. We never get these huge snowfalls unless warm air-masses move in and collide with cold air over the interior. Over the last couple of years, this pattern has established, and it is happening with regularity. Our summers have not gotten warmer (thank God!) but our winters for the last couple of years have been punctuated regularly by incursions of warm, moist air, resulting in blizzards and record snowfall. During our winters, snowfall is negatively correlated to coldness. If we could stay very cold, dominated by Arctic air-masses, our snowfall would be nominal. Climate-change newbies do not know this, nor do they have an appreciation for the context in which this weather might be construed (long-term) as climate.

Over here on the other side of the country, we had 13.5 times (http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_120908_weather_portland_snow.481e1ec4.html) the average snowfall (http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/online/ccd/snowfall.html) this last December. We've not had that much snow in over 50 years. And from the sounds of it, many tweeners had lots as well. Perhaps next season we should have a "It's not snowing!" thread.

heldervelez
Feb25-09, 09:46 AM
long-term climate ?
a lot of references on long-term climate say : we are living on a interglacial period.
a warming phase signifies Summers like usual and warmer Winters.
Global Temps this winter have been colder or warmer than usual?
This winter and along Europe we had a lot of unsual cold. But this is only details.
The general trend is not in to be seen on isolated details. We have to average etc...
But the last NASA satelite to 'measure GW' did not reach his position and went down.
It's a pitty.
Along these 11 pages of talking on wheter in this thread no one mentioned the GW, but me (I'm against GW(*)). If, instead, we have been talking on warmer winter I bet that GW will have been mentioned.

(*) this is not on why people (or myself) are pro or against. Simply to bold that GW was absent of the conversation.

turbo
Feb27-09, 10:09 AM
Interesting weather today!! Woke up to freezing fog, and now the temperature is rising rapidly. Rain is in the forecast, and I sure hope it is not torrential. The snow-pack is very heavy and rapid melting could cause some real trouble in the river-valleys. I'm simmering a big batch of my home-made pizza sauce right now, and looking at our blooming forsythia-branches from time to time for a hint of Spring.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x318/turbo-1/kitchforsythia.jpg

Of course, that's just wishful thinking. I know Winter is baring its fangs, looking for innocent victims.
http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x318/turbo-1/icemonster.jpg

Evo
Feb27-09, 10:25 AM
The temperature here started plummeting yesterday afternoon. Snow tonight and tomorrow, high of 29F, low 18F.

We're freezing.

Art
Feb27-09, 10:31 AM
In Ireland we're averaging ~1.5 C colder so far this year than last year which itself was a record cold Jan/Feb.

Jimmy Snyder
Feb27-09, 11:04 AM
looking at our blooming forsythia-branches from time to time for a hint of Spring.
Thanks for the hint. I have a forsythia bush growing in my back yard. It is one of my wife's favorites. What do I need to do to get some branches to blossom inside like that?

turbo
Feb27-09, 11:09 AM
Thanks for the hint. I have a forsythia bush growing in my back yard. It is one of my wife's favorites. What do I need to do to get some branches to blossom inside like that?Trim some branches and arrange them in a vase and add warm water. That's all. The flower buds will swell and start to open in a few days, and after about a week, you'll have leaves emerging at the tips of the branches. It's a nice way to get a touch of spring during a long, hard winter.

Redbelly98
Feb27-09, 11:14 AM
In Ireland we're averaging ~1.5 C colder so far this year than last year which itself was a record cold Jan/Feb.

For the Americans reading, note that 1.5C is about 35F. Incredible that it would change by that much in 1 year!!! :biggrin:

turbo
Feb27-09, 11:23 AM
For the Americans reading, note that 1.5C is about 35F. Incredible that it would change by that much in 1 year!!! :biggrin:Well, I guess we can kiss all the Irish glaciers good-bye, then.

Jimmy Snyder
Feb27-09, 11:25 AM
Trim some branches and arrange them in a vase and add warm water. That's all. The flower buds will swell and start to open in a few days, and after about a week, you'll have leaves emerging at the tips of the branches. It's a nice way to get a touch of spring during a long, hard winter.
Thanks. I'm bound to get a couple of kisses out of this. I'll give you one when we meet. Don't worry, I don't wear perfume.

turbo
Feb27-09, 11:39 AM
Thanks. I'm bound to get a couple of kisses out of this. I'll give you one when we meet. Don't worry, I don't wear perfume.Eek! No more gardening tips for you!! :eek:

heldervelez
Feb27-09, 12:56 PM
I'm a lucky guy at Lisbon, Portugal, South Europe.
This week was fabulous 20ºC (almost beach time). A dream to a lot of people.
Tomorrow will be raining again and more freeze (15ºC).
I hope you have better weather in near future.
It makes more smiles in the people.

Art
Feb27-09, 01:08 PM
For the Americans reading, note that 1.5C is about 35F. Incredible that it would change by that much in 1 year!!! :biggrin:It feels freezing when you're not used to it :biggrin:

The south of France is beginning to look very attractive.

Art
Feb27-09, 01:09 PM
Well, I guess we can kiss all the Irish glaciers good-bye, then.:rofl: We used to have mountains too once but all the rain washed them away. We only have a few molehills left now.

Evo
Feb28-09, 09:29 AM
We are having quite a snow storm. I hear the guy shoveling my sidewalk out front.

turbo
Feb28-09, 09:41 AM
Luckily, the rain that was forecast for last night never developed - just a little freezing drizzle. The birds had emptied my 2-qt seed feeder by 10:30, so I went out and refilled it. They must have had look-outs watching for me to do that because there is a huge mixed flock of goldfinches, siskins, and redpolls chowing down. The chickadees and nuthatches have to fight for a place at the feeder when those little flying pigs mob it.

Astronuc
Mar1-09, 06:17 PM
It's not snowing yet, but we're supposed to get about 8-12 inches (20-30 cm) of snow in the next 24 hrs.

turbo
Mar1-09, 06:36 PM
It's not snowing yet, but we're supposed to get about 8-12 inches (20-30 cm) of snow in the next 24 hrs.We're in line for the higher end, Astro. I really don't want it, but there is at least a month of this stuff in the conga-line.

jtbell
Mar1-09, 08:39 PM
Down here in the Southeast, people are in a tizzy over it. It's not too bad here so far, but one of my "local" TV stations had its transmitter tower (up in the mountains) collapse in the wind this afternoon, and another station has gone off the air.

OmCheeto
Mar1-09, 09:30 PM
Down here in the Southeast, people are in a tizzy over it. It's not too bad here so far, but one of my "local" TV stations had its transmitter tower (up in the mountains) collapse in the wind this afternoon, and another station has gone off the air.

Stop it! You're freakin me out. I just checked google earth, and there's a freakin hurricane lookin' thing 200 miles away from here! (Lisab! Batten the hatches!)

http://home.europa.com/~garry/pf_super_cyclone_tomorrow.jpg

We don't get hurricanes here! EVER! :eek:

hmmmm.... um. wait a minute......

Isn't that just the signature photo of a low pressure area?

errrrum... yup. ummm..... never mind.....

It's just gonna rain.

sorry for the snafu. :blushing:

~christina~
Mar1-09, 10:10 PM
Oh wow, I haven't went out this weekend or watched the news and I turn on the news right now and guess what? 8 inches by tommorow. faints*

lisab
Mar1-09, 10:34 PM
Stop it! You're freakin me out. I just checked google earth, and there's a freakin hurricane lookin' thing 200 miles away from here! (Lisab! Batten the hatches!)

http://home.europa.com/~garry/pf_super_cyclone_tomorrow.jpg

We don't get hurricanes here! EVER! :eek:

hmmmm.... um. wait a minute......

Isn't that just the signature photo of a low pressure area?

errrrum... yup. ummm..... never mind.....

It's just gonna rain.

sorry for the snafu. :blushing:


Thanks for the warning, Om...I'll dig out my rain jacket. Oh what am I saying, there it is right there...the only jacket I ever wear!! Year round!!

Even so, just to be on the safe side, I will batten down my hatches, Om...whatever that means. Where would I find my hatches? And how exactly do I batten them...?

Oh and that hiker guy on your map...hope he's wearing his Gore-Tex.

Andre
Mar2-09, 12:45 AM
Batten down the hatches (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/56700.html)

Jimmy Snyder
Mar2-09, 09:32 AM
It's just one snowflake piling up on top of another in the worst white on white violence I've seen since last year. Except when Ma Hogue took after Pa during the Miss Fortune swimsuit contest. It's six inches deep and still growing. Can you believe that turbo-1, Huh? Can you?

Astronuc
Mar2-09, 09:41 AM
I was shoveling the end of my driveway before the town's plow truck plowed the snow from the street into my driveway, and as I was standing about to start the last part that was about 6 feet wide of really dense stuff from the previous plow run, a lady in a pickup truck with a plow drove on to the shoulder, dropped the plow, and cleared away the end of my driveway, then raised the plow and drove off. I just smiled and waved. :approve: That was very sweet of her.

I thought she was going to plow the neighbors driveway since the regular plow person sometimes comes from that direction and drops the plow in front of my driveway and clears out both.

turbo
Mar2-09, 09:43 AM
It's just one snowflake piling up on top of another in the worst white on white violence I've seen since last year. Except when Ma Hogue took after Pa during the Miss Fortune swimsuit contest. It's six inches deep and still growing. Can you believe that turbo-1, Huh? Can you?I can believe it. We have 6" on the ground already, and the snow is not supposed to stop until sometime tomorrow. Winds are light now, but are expected to increase greatly, producing blizzard/whiteout conditions. Fun.

BobG
Mar2-09, 10:18 AM
Time to take the top off the Jeep. Beautiful weather. 70's for the first half of the week.

Of course, I'm pretty sure Colorado will get its own Spring snow storm somewhere along the way. For now, I just laugh.

Jimmy Snyder
Mar2-09, 11:09 AM
I can believe it. We have 6" on the ground already, and the snow is not supposed to stop until sometime tomorrow. Winds are light now, but are expected to increase greatly, producing blizzard/whiteout conditions. Fun.
Oh. I thought 6" of snow in your neck of the woods was reported as 'high humidity'.

turbo
Mar2-09, 11:13 AM
Oh. I thought 6" of snow in your neck of the woods was reported as 'high humidity'.My standard joke about the accuracy of winter forecasts is "I just shoveled 10" of partially-cloudy out of my driveway." 6" is really nothing here - it's the other multiple 6"s that might come before this is over. We got 4 of those last Monday.

Astronuc
Mar2-09, 11:27 AM
We seem to be getting a second wave - with wind.

We had 10-20 mph winds this morning with 20F ambient temp.

hypatia
Mar2-09, 12:16 PM
I hope all the nor-easter folks keep their power, and stay safe and warm.

~christina~
Mar2-09, 11:10 PM
It was a strange strange day. There was a transformer box that went up in flames, which in turn actually was from the electric wires underground catching fire. Then the fire department felt that they weren't going to put out the fire untill the electric company came over...and then there was this explosion. And finally we lost power. Oh, did I mention that this was after we got 10.5 inches of snow, and that I had to shovel it all? (this was after I had to go to school, which was cancelled for everyone else, of course)
I took pictures of this pipe that was on fire but didn't get pictures of the large flames coming out of the manhole cover. might post it.

turbo
Mar3-09, 12:17 AM
It was a strange strange day. There was a transformer box that went up in flames, which in turn actually was from the electric wires underground catching fire. Then the fire department felt that they weren't going to put out the fire untill the electric company came over...and then there was this explosion. And finally we lost power. Oh, did I mention that this was after we got 10.5 inches of snow, and that I had to shovel it all? (this was after I had to go to school, which was cancelled for everyone else, of course)
I took pictures of this pipe that was on fire but didn't get pictures of the large flames coming out of the manhole cover. might post it.Yuck!! WE got less than the foot of snow that was expected because the storm raced to the SE of us in it's path to whack the maritimes. The tell-tale was when the heaviest snows came on rather neutral or westerly winds. Normally, blizzards feature heavy easterly winds as the low parks over the gulf of Maine and sweeps warm, wet air up and over the interior.

Evo
Mar4-09, 12:26 PM
It was a strange strange day. There was a transformer box that went up in flames, which in turn actually was from the electric wires underground catching fire. Then the fire department felt that they weren't going to put out the fire untill the electric company came over...and then there was this explosion. And finally we lost power. Oh, did I mention that this was after we got 10.5 inches of snow, and that I had to shovel it all? (this was after I had to go to school, which was cancelled for everyone else, of course)
I took pictures of this pipe that was on fire but didn't get pictures of the large flames coming out of the manhole cover. might post it.Gives Cristina a {{{{HUG}}}}.

I hope things are better by now.

turbo
Mar4-09, 03:25 PM
I hope things have straightened out ~christina~. If I lost power before having to clean up snow, I would have to start my generator, and use the generator to electrically start my snow-blower. The blower has a big motor, and when it is cold out and the oil is thick, I can't seem to pull it over by hand fast enough to get it started.

Note: after the storm, a windy cold air mass moved in, and my mixed flock of goldfinches, siskins, and redpolls has dwindled to just a few individuals. I read recently that songbirds can travel several hundred miles in a day, and I've got to think that those little rascals have headed for the coast where it's warmer and will only wander back to my "bird buffet" when the temperatures moderate.

Redbelly98
Mar4-09, 04:39 PM
Note: after the storm, a windy cold air mass moved in, and my mixed flock of goldfinches, siskins, and redpolls has dwindled to just a few individuals.

turbo, have you noticed any woodpeckers? I hope they are okay.

turbo
Mar4-09, 04:48 PM
turbo, have you noticed any woodpeckers? I hope they are okay.Woodpeckers over-winter every year. They love my suet-feeder. Hairy, downy, three-toed.... pretty tough birds.

Redbelly98
Mar4-09, 05:45 PM
Thanks! Glad to hear it. Yes, damn tough birds we--er, they are!

turbo
Mar4-09, 05:59 PM
Thanks! Glad to hear it. Yes, damn tough birds we--er, they are!We have the big pileated woodpeckers, too, but they don't visit the suet feeder. I can hear them hooting like maniacs in the woods, though.

lisab
Mar8-09, 06:13 PM
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7665/snowinmarcho.jpg


A bit unusual in the Seattle area to still be getting snow in March, but this was the view out of my family room this morning. C'mon Spring...hurry up!

larkspur
Mar8-09, 06:36 PM
At least it is a pretty snow!
The tulip trees are blooming here and several redbuds bloomed before our last freeze so I fear this will not be a pretty Spring around here.

OmCheeto
Mar8-09, 07:37 PM
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7665/snowinmarcho.jpg


A bit unusual in the Seattle area to still be getting snow in March, but this was the view out of my family room this morning. C'mon Spring...hurry up!

Is that a hammock frame in the corner?

Sorry. My eyes are now trained to spot boat keel shaped objects.....

It's a neurological disease I'm sure.

ps. Love your garden.

lisab
Mar8-09, 08:00 PM
Yes, it is a hammock stand!

Since the weather has improved dramatically since this morning (ah, the great Pacific Northwest weather...like living in 4 different climates, all in one day...Om, you know exactly what I'm talking about!), I just went out and took a pic of what the world looks like from the hammock spot.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2537/viewfromhammock.jpg

It's a nice spot to watch birds, or clouds, or just nothing at all.

turbo
Mar11-09, 01:03 PM
We got a little snow this morning, then it turned to sleet, and now it's raining steadily. The people who monitor our snow-pack for flood danger say that the snow has additional capacity to hold water, so we should not get flooding except in isolated spots here and there.

Ivan Seeking
Mar11-09, 04:13 PM
Today, we have spring!

Evo
Mar11-09, 04:26 PM
It was 18F this morning, right now it's 28F, the average for this time of year for us is 56F.

heldervelez
Mar12-09, 12:47 PM
Lisbon 17h, 26 °C (79 °F) (Summer time?)
And I've caught a cold!

Jimmy Snyder
Mar20-09, 06:32 AM
I must be an Eskimo, because I've got 27 choice words for what was coming down as I came into work this morning. I've never seen this kind before. Most flakes were an inch or more in diameter up to at least 2 inches. It's down to fluries now and just an inch accumulation. I know that wouldn't even be mentioned on the weather report in some places, but around here it's an excuse to drive ill. And this is South Jersey where the base level of driving is distressing to begin with.

Jimmy Snyder
Mar29-09, 06:42 PM
We just had a hail storm. They're not that uncommon here, this is the second one in a few years that I know of. The hailstones were about the size of peas and the storm lasted about 15 minutes.

Evo
Mar30-09, 09:07 AM
Saturday we had a very bad ice and snow storm. Luckily only minor tree damage.

turbo
Mar30-09, 09:15 AM
Still warm and raining steadily here. I'm glad, because it's the fasted way to get rid of all this snow. According to the hydrologists, we should be safe from flooding in all but the most low-lying areas because the water content of the existing snow-pack is moderate. Residents of northern towns along rivers in Aroostook county need to be alert to the formation of ice-dams. When the ice starts to break up, big slabs of it accumulate in the narrows and shallows, forcing the water over the banks. Apart from that, our near-record snowfall of last winter seems destined to depart quietly.