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oranim2
Jan5-09, 06:28 PM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

Let there be two spheres, of equal radius but unknown masses (mass isn't important).
Both move down a ramp of angle \theta, where \theta can be any angle but 90 deg. or 0 deg.
The first sphere slides down the ramp with no (negligible) friction. This sphere does not roll at all.
The second sphere rolls down the ramp. This sphere does not slip, and thus, its only movement is caused by the rolling, not a sliding motion.

If both spheres are released from the same displacement up the ramp from the ramp's end, at the same time, which will reach the bottom of the ramp first?
Prove that this is so


2. Relevant equations
Moment of inertia equations. F=MA. Motion with constant acceleration equations.


3. The attempt at a solution
I tried manipulating some of the formulas, but was not able to get very far. I didn't find a way to relate time to the rolling (not sliding) ball.

Doc Al
Jan5-09, 06:38 PM
Compare the forces acting on each. Then apply Newton's 2nd law.

just__curious
Jan5-09, 07:29 PM
You can also use energy, might be easier.

oranim2
Jan5-09, 07:49 PM
Any other help?... I still am a bit stuck.

jgens
Jan5-09, 07:54 PM
Sure, lets examine the energy transformations of the sliding ball. We start out with purely potential energy; however, as the ball reaches the end of the incline, all the potential energy has subsequently been converted into kinetic energy. Hence, PE = KE.

Now apply similar logic to the rolling ball and interpret the results.