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psykatic
Jan23-09, 02:23 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

A smooth ring A of mass m can slide on a fixed horizontal rod. A string tied to the ring passes over a fixed pulley B and carries a block C of Mass M (=2m) as shown in the given figure. At a instant at the string between the ring and the pulley makes an angle \theta with the rod, (a)Show that, if the ring slides with a speed v, the block descends with speed v cos\theta. (b) With what acceleration will the ring start moving if the system is released from rest with \theta=~30^\circ?

2. Relevant equations

Newtons Equations, free body diagram

3. The attempt at a solution

Well, this question happens to be from a textbook. And its a solved one too.. The solution which they have given is quite complicated! I thought I'd get a brief explanation of "why and how" over it, and yes an alternative method would be highly appreciated!

The solution, is like this (as given in the book),

Suppose in a small time interval \delta t the ring is displaced from A to A' and the block from C to C'. Drop a perpendicular A'P from A' to AB. For small displacements A'B~ PB (I didnt get this!), since the lenght is constant (?????), we have,
AB+BC= A'B+BC'
AP+PB+BC=A'B+BC'
AP=BC'-BC=CC' (as A'B=PB)

AA'cos\theta= CC'

or \frac{AA'cos\theta}{\delta t}=~\frac{CC'}{\delta t}

Therefor, (velocity of the ring)cos\theta= (velocity of the block)


Please help :cry:

rl.bhat
Jan23-09, 03:46 AM
When the ring moves with a velocity v horizontally, its component along the string is v*cos(theta). Since the length of string between the ring and block is costant, the velocity of the block is equal to v*cos(theta).

psykatic
Jan23-09, 05:15 AM
Well, did you have a look at the diagram? It hasnt been approved yet..

rl.bhat
Jan23-09, 11:42 PM
Suppose in a small time interval LaTeX Code: \\delta t the ring is displaced from A to A' and the block from C to C'. Drop a perpendicular A'P from A' to AB. For small displacements A'B~ PB (I didnt get this!), since the lenght is constant (?????), we have,
When A and A(dash) are very close, AB and A(dash)B are nearly equal. If you take BA(dash) equal to BP, AP becomes A*A(dash)cos(theta) and A*A(dash)/t = velocity. The length of the string is ABC = A(dash)BC(dash)

psykatic
Jan24-09, 12:01 AM
okay, thats fine with me, I've several more problems over the free body diagrams! I'll post it in mean time! Thank You!