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crookesm
Jun4-04, 11:02 AM
Imagine a cube that 'grows' by five cubic inches per week. How fast is its surface area increasing when the length of one of its sides is seven inches?
I know that the derivative of volume (V) with respect to time (t) is 5, e.g:
\frac{dV}{dt} = 5
To calculate the surface area of a cube from a given volume I would use:
S=6(\sqrt[3]{V})^2
Therefore, would I need to calculate the derivate of S with respect to V in order to reach my goal of deriving S with respect to t?
Or am I going totally in the wrong direction?
Differentiate S with respect to t, by using the chain rule.
Use your knowledge of V and dV/dt to calculate how fast the surface area changes.
crookesm
Jun9-04, 03:14 PM
Thanks Arildno,
I have been thinking about this more clearly...
1. I know the cube is growing at 5in^2 per week.
2. This can be represented as 5x (where x is the week number)
3. I need to figure out the week where the length is 7 inches. Solving \sqrt[3]{5x} = 7 , I find that the week is 68.6
4. Therefore, I need to find the cube surface area's rate of change at week 68.6 - represented as: 6(\sqrt[3]{5x})^2
Plugging this into my calculator returns a rate of 2.857in^2 per week. This is the correct answer I was looking for! Hurrah!
However, I have been trying to calculate the derivative manually without much success. I have been using the chain rule:
I am taking f(x)=6x^2 and g(x)=\sqrt[3]{5x}. I understand I need to take the derivate of f(x) and g(x) as follows - f'(g(x))g'(x). I can calculate f'(x)=12(\sqrt[3]{5x}) but I cannot get g'(x). I'm totally stumped when trying to derive this. Any hints...?
Write g(x) like this:
g(x)=\sqrt[3]{5x}=5^{\frac{1}{3}}x^{\frac{1}{3}}
Does that help?
crookesm
Jun9-04, 03:28 PM
Sorry about that - I kept screwing up my Latex formatting. I have edited my post it should be correct now..
Your not alone in this..
I've posted a hint, I don't know if you find it sufficient, though..
crookesm,
I think the notation you're using is getting you confused. Stick with V for volume and S for surface area. You're trying to find dS/dt. According to the chain rule:
dS/dt = dS/dV*dV/dt
You have equations for S(V) and V(t), so you can find those deriviatives.
Does that help?
Gokul43201
Jun9-04, 04:26 PM
Here's another way,
\frac {dV} {dt} = \frac {d} {dt} (a^3) = 3a^2 \frac {da} {dt} = 5
=> \frac {da} {dt} = 5/(3*7*7)
And
\frac {dS} {dt} =\frac {d} {dt} (6a^2) = 12a \frac {da} {dt} = \frac {12*7*5} {3*7*7}=20/7=2.857
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