Dimensions Defined without Coordinates?

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This discussion centers on the concept of defining dimensions without relying on traditional coordinate systems. Participants explore the relationship between dimension and direction, emphasizing that dimensions can exist independently of reference frames, such as Cartesian or Einsteinian coordinates. The conversation highlights the use of C^n as an affine n-space over complex numbers and discusses the Krull dimension as a means of understanding dimensions abstractly. Additionally, it addresses the definition of angles in spaces with real inner products, reinforcing that these concepts can be understood without physical models.

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Dimensions Defined without Coordinates?

Mathematicians, I'm sure, have solidly clear idea of dimension but not to me. So allow me to ask some questions for all who have a clear understanding of the concept of dimension.

Can we define dimension without the use of so called multidimensional reference frames with their equal number of coordinates? 3 coordinates in Cartesian system. 4 coordinates in Einstein's relativities. 10 and 11 coordinates(?) in superstring and M-theory.

What is the true relational correspondence between dimension and direction?

How can direction be defined without a coordinate system or a reference frame?

What is the physical meaning of angles (plane, solid and abstract phase angle)? Can direction be defined without angles?
 
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The answer to all your questions is yes - there is nothing to require you to have a phyisical model in defining any of these things.

Take C^n as affine n space over the complex numbers, or any other algebraically closed field. n, the dimension is the krull dimension - the maximal length of a chain of ideals satifying certain properties.

Any space with a real inner product may have angles between (position) vectors defined by the angle between a and b is given by (a,b)=(a,a)^{1/2}(b,b)^{1/2}cos{theta}

and all these are coordinate free objects.
 
Many thanks for this great enlightenment!
 

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