Life's contribution to Earth's weight and gravity?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the contribution of life to Earth's overall weight and its implications for gravitational forces. Participants explore various aspects of how living organisms might affect Earth's mass, including decay processes and urbanization, while also considering the effects of human activities such as spacecraft launches.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the contribution of life to Earth's weight and whether decayed bodies retain their weight in a controlled environment.
  • Another participant asserts that all mass of a person originates from Earth, suggesting no net change in mass due to living organisms.
  • A different viewpoint claims that life makes Earth slightly lighter due to spacecraft leaving the planet, while also noting that Earth's weight remains stable regardless of the existence of life.
  • Some participants discuss the concentration of people and infrastructure in cities, proposing that this uneven distribution could alter Earth's gravitational profile.
  • One participant humorously suggests that electromagnetic radiation from television programs contributes to a loss of mass, framing it as a "Fermi problem" for estimation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether life contributes to or reduces Earth's weight, with some arguing for stability in Earth's mass and others suggesting that human activities have measurable effects. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge various factors that could influence Earth's weight, including urbanization and human activities, but do not reach a consensus on the overall impact of life on Earth's mass.

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This is a bit of an odd question, but I was wondering. What kind of contribution would life have made to Earth's overall weight? Also, would a decayed body still weigh the same weight if all of the forms of decay were in a controlled environment? I started pondering this the other day when thinking about life growing up, constantly gaining weight as we grow. I also wondered what kind of implications it might have had on Earth and it's gravitational forces over the years.

It's kind of a stupid question, but thanks for any input...
 
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All of the mass of a person comes from the earth, so there is no change in mass due to living things.
 
NWH said:
This is a bit of an odd question, but I was wondering. What kind of contribution would life have made to Earth's overall weight? Also, would a decayed body still weigh the same weight if all of the forms of decay were in a controlled environment? I started pondering this the other day when thinking about life growing up, constantly gaining weight as we grow. I also wondered what kind of implications it might have had on Earth and it's gravitational forces over the years.

It's kind of a stupid question, but thanks for any input...

Contrarily, life makes Earth lighter a little bit because of some spacecraft s plunging into the universe. Except from that, the weight of the Earth is stable no mater life does exitst or not.
 
pixel01 said:
Contrarily, life makes Earth lighter a little bit because of some spacecraft s plunging into the universe. Except from that, the weight of the Earth is stable no mater life does exitst or not.

Offset in turn just a tad by scraps from the Moon or comets that we've brought back. (As long as we are considering small effects.) :wink:
 
Well, hold up.

People - and animals - tend to concentrate in cities. For instance, there are many more people living in New York, NY than in Middleofnowheretonshire, PA. Also, cities weigh more than farms naturally, as there are more buildings, more cars, etc.

If the distribution of cities isn't symmetric enough, it's entirely possibly that life alters the Earth's gravitational profile in a way which is less random than it would be if non-biological processes were the only motors of change.

As a proof of concept, say that 1% of the Earth's mass makes up what humans can play around with. Say we move all this to one spot on the Earth's surface. Then we will have slightly shifted the center of mass of the Earth.
 
pixel01 said:
Contrarily, life makes Earth lighter a little bit because of some spacecraft s plunging into the universe.

And because of the electromagnetic radiation that we're constantly producing, e.g. those "Leave It to Beaver" TV programs that are now about fifty light-years away from us.

Now, there's a "Fermi problem" for you! Estimate the mass equivalent that was radiated away during one such half-hour program. :rolleyes:
 

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