Derivation of Lienard-Wiechart

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the Lienard-Wiechert potential formulas, exploring their relationship with Maxwell's equations. Participants also delve into the nature of the four-vector potential and its implications in the context of Lorentz transformations and electromagnetic theory.

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  • One participant requests a derivation of the Lienard-Wiechert potentials, suggesting they can be derived from Maxwell's equations.
  • Another participant provides a link to a resource that may contain the derivation.
  • A follow-up question is posed regarding the nature of the four-vector potential, specifically asking why it is valid to apply a Lorentz transformation to it.
  • Participants discuss whether the electric potential is the time-component of the magnetic potential and the validity of the equation \(\vec B = \nabla \times \vec A\) in four-dimensional space.
  • One participant introduces the concept of the four-dimensional curl and relates it to the Faraday tensor, indicating a connection between these mathematical constructs.
  • Another participant explains that the four-vector potential is chosen to ensure the continuity equation holds in any Lorentz transformation, thus maintaining charge conservation across different frames.
  • Clarification is requested on the explanation of the four-vector potential and its implications for charge conservation.

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Participants express various viewpoints regarding the nature of the four-vector potential and its mathematical properties, indicating that multiple competing views remain on the implications of these concepts.

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The discussion includes unresolved questions about the definitions and mathematical properties of four-dimensional vector fields, particularly concerning the curl operation and its applicability in this context.

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Can anyone point me to a derivation of the Lienard-Wiechart potential formulas? I assume that they can be derived from Maxwell's equations alone.

Thanks.
 
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That is very helpful, thank you.

A follow-up question, if I may:

What makes

[tex] <br /> ( \frac {\phi }{c} , A^x , A^y , A^z )<br /> [/tex]

a four-vector? That is, why is applying a Lorentz transformation to it vaild? Is the electric potential somehow the time-component of the magnetic potential? Is

[tex] <br /> \vec B = \nabla \times \vec A<br /> [/tex]

still valid if A is four dimensional? Is the curl of a four-dimensional vector field even defined?
 
snoopies622 said:
Is

[tex] <br /> \vec B = \nabla \times \vec A<br /> [/tex]

still valid if A is four dimensional? Is the curl of a four-dimensional vector field even defined?

The analog of that equation is Fαβ = ∂αAβ - ∂βAα. The thing on the right is the four dimensional curl. The thing on the left is the Farady tensor.
 
snoopies622 said:
That is very helpful, thank you.
What makes
[tex] ( \frac {\phi }{c} , A^x , A^y , A^z )[/tex]
a four-vector? That is, why is applying a Lorentz transformation to it valid? Is the electric potential somehow the time-component of the magnetic potential?
[tex](\phi,{\vec A})[/tex] is chosen to be a 4-vector in a LT so that the continuity equation
[tex]\partial_\mu A^\mu=0[/tex] will hold in any LT so charge conservation will hold in any Loentz system.
They are no longer called the electric and magnetic potential, but just the 4-vector potential.
 
dx said:
The thing on the right is the four dimensional curl.

OK, good. Thanks.

clem said:
[tex](\phi,{\vec A})[/tex] is chosen to be a 4-vector in a LT so that the continuity equation [tex]\partial_\mu A^\mu=0[/tex] will hold in any LT so charge conservation will hold in any Loentz system.

I'm sorry - could you re-word this? I'm not sure I get your meaning.
 

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