Ethernet and Wireless connections ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of network interface cards (NICs) in a computer when both wireless and wired connections are enabled. Participants explore how a computer selects which NIC to use for internet access, considering various configurations and settings in different operating systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that if one NIC has a public address and the other a private address, the computer will use the NIC with the public address for internet access.
  • Another participant mentions that if both NICs have private addresses, the NIC with a default gateway specified will be used for internet access.
  • A different participant inquires about configuring the ethernet card to be prioritized over the wireless card, suggesting the need for a specific gateway setting.
  • One participant suggests removing the default gateway from the wireless NIC to force the computer to use the wired NIC first, but notes that this could lead to issues if the wired connection fails.
  • Another participant proposes the idea of creating floating static routes and mentions that the operating system will select the NIC at the top of the list if both are bound to TCP/IP.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how to configure NICs for optimal internet access, with no consensus reached on the best approach. There are multiple competing ideas regarding the use of gateways and static routes.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference different operating systems, including Windows XP and Windows ME, which may affect the configuration options available for NICs. The discussion includes assumptions about network setups and the behavior of DHCP.

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Hey guys

My computer currently has a wireless network card, and it has an ethernet card. I have the wireless card "disabled" right now in my hardware manager (WinXP), and the wired ethernet is active.

What happens if they are both enabled at the same time? How does the computer pick which one to use to access the internet?
 
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If one NIC has a public address and the other a private address and the destination address is on the internet then it will use the NIC with the public address. If the destination address is on the LAN then it will use the NIC with the private address.

If both NICs have private addresses but only one has a default gateway specified and the destination is on the internet then it will use the NIC with a default gateway specified….

If both NICs are private and both have a default gateway specified I will use whatever NIC is the primary NIC bound to TCP/IP. The bindings tab in Win NT is pretty straight forward. They took it out in Windows XP (or at least I don’t recall seeing it anywhere)… I suppose you could find it in the registry or with third party software.

HTH,
 
Hey man!

Both cards are setup for DHCP via my router. So they both have the private addresses. Additionaly, they both are bound to TCP/IP in the network config (Its on a WinME machine (muhaha)).

What gateway could I install onto the ethernet-card's setting to make it try to use that one first? I'd rather the compute ruse the hardwired internet card first, and if it can't find a connection there then use the wireless.
 
Hmm.. .if the 10/100BaseT NIC is physically attached to the wireless router and both the wireless and 10/100BaseT NIC currently have the same default gateway then you could simply remove the wireless gateway and if the 10/100BaseT NIC failed then it would use the wireless NIC for LAN connections but you would have no WAN connection (if the 1st NIC failed) until you assigned the wireless NIC a default gateway….

I think what you are looking for is a way to “team” your NICs for adapter failover reasons. I have done this many times using hardware based solutions on servers… here is a link that talks about the process http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/networking/teaming.html#how however, I have no idea how or if WinME can do it with hardware not designed to team the NICs… There may be a way to do it, but I am not familiar with any.
 
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Can you not create some floating static routes?

Also if they are both bound to TCP/IP then ME will pick the one at the top of the list, if this link is down it then proceeds to the next in line. however there is no real reason to do this, In a Redundant network you would terminate the different NIC's to different switches, because if you don't you do not have proper redundancy
 

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