What Are the Key Divisibility Rules and Counterexamples in Number Theory?

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The discussion revolves around key divisibility rules and counterexamples in number theory, focusing on various claims related to divisibility properties and proofs. Participants explore theoretical aspects, propose proofs, and present counterexamples.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes three problems related to divisibility, including proving that if q is divisible by (r+s), then q must be divisible by r or s.
  • Another participant suggests applying the definition of divisibility to show that if a is divisible by b, then a^m is divisible by b^m.
  • A participant questions the notation used in the first problem, asking if it refers to ideals.
  • Several participants seek clarification on the meaning of (r+s) and provide a counterexample where 25 is divisible by (2+3) but not by 2 or 3.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the first problem, as participants provide differing interpretations and counterexamples. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the validity of the divisibility claims presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the notation and definitions used, which may affect the clarity of the problems discussed. The counterexamples provided highlight potential limitations in the initial claims.

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hey i have more problems that can really exercise the mind! here are 3.

1. prove if q is divisible by (r +s) then either q is divisible by r or q is divisible by s.

2. if d>0, (fd+ed) = d(f,e). proof.

3. a divisible by b => a^m divisible by b^m a,b,m are in Z+.

i think i have some thoughts and i will share.

1. say that (b+c) = ma, where m is in Z+. after that, i am guessing...

2. could use contradiction here. say that d=0, then show the proof? anyone has any takes on this?

3. there exist m and n s.t. bn=ma. lost after here.

anyone w/ information/thoughts please share.
 
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For number 3, just apply the definition of "divisibility"... There is a k such that a = bk, and thus a^m = (bk)^m = b^m * k^m, and so a^m / b^m = k^m \in Z, hence b^m | a^m.
 
what does the notation in 1 mean, are you talking about ideals?

the second follows, i believe, if you show the RHS divides the LHS and the LHS divides the RHS
 
What does (a+b) denote ?
 
Number 1: By (r+s), do you mean the sum of r and s? If so, a quick counterexample: 25 is divisible by (2+3) but it's not divisible by 2 or by 3.
 
AlMacD said:
Number 1: By (r+s), do you mean the sum of r and s? If so, a quick counterexample: 25 is divisible by (2+3) but it's not divisible by 2 or by 3.
Bah, I was just about to put the exact same counter example up :wink:
 

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