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Johnny Leong
Jun21-04, 10:59 AM
Please give me some hints:

Sum of (i^2)/(4^i) where i is from 0 to infinity.

turin
Jun21-04, 04:55 PM
If you just want an approximate answer, then consider the convergence of the series.

Johnny Leong
Jun21-04, 11:00 PM
Sum of (i^2)/(4^i) > 1/4 + 1/4 + 9/16 + Sum of 1/(4^i) where 4<=i<=infinity.
Can this be a good approximation?

HallsofIvy
Jun21-04, 11:15 PM
Well, that was what you were told when you posted this under "k-12 homework".

turin
Jun27-04, 11:08 PM
The sequence of partial sums is monotonic, so you definitely know that the infinite series must be greater than any partial series. Then, you know that any number greater than 1 is greater than 1, so that remaining sum also fits the bill.

I actually worked this summation out to about 20 terms, and it appears as though it is a recognizable fraction.

cookiemonster
Jun27-04, 11:29 PM
arildno solved it quite cleverly in Johnny's duplicate thread (bad Johhny!).

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=31966

cookiemonster

turin
Jun27-04, 11:57 PM
arildno solved it quite cleverly in Johnny's duplicate thread (bad Johhny!).

http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=31966Perhaps, but somewhat inappropriate for K-12 IMO. Or are they teaching that sort of thing in HS now?

cookiemonster
Jun28-04, 12:34 AM
I had no trouble following it and I'm just out of high school.

Alternatively, do you know of another, less advanced way of solving it? I'd be interested in seeing it.

cookiemonster

arildno
Jun28-04, 02:28 PM
I had no trouble following it and I'm just out of high school.

Alternatively, do you know of another, less advanced way of solving it? I'd be interested in seeing it.

cookiemonster
So would I!
Perhaps I shot a sparrow with a cannon..

turin
Jun28-04, 02:59 PM
Add about twenty of the terms. You can definitely see the series converge. This is "less advanced" (and more straightforward). Though I certainly admit that it does not smack of the elegance provided by arildno.




So would I!
Perhaps I shot a sparrow with a cannon..I would say you fought an armored knight with a rapier.