Understanding Sum to Infinity in Geometric Progression

In summary, the sum to infinity is used in this scenario because it accurately reflects the model of the ball bouncing with no energy losses. This is necessary to calculate the total distance traveled, as the height after each bounce becomes zero only after infinitely many bounces. While in reality, the ball may eventually stop due to energy losses, the sum to infinity is still necessary for mathematical accuracy.
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Sarah0001
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Homework Statement
"A ball is dropped vertically from a height h onto a flat surface. After the
nth bounce it returns to a height h/(3^n)
Find the total distance travelled
by the ball."

Why is the sum to infinity used as opposed to Sum to n?
Relevant Equations
Sum to infinity of geometric progression = a/1-r
Sum to n of geometric progression = a(1-r^n)/ (1-r)
My question is Why is the sum to infinity used as opposed to Sum to n? and How can I deduce that the sum to infinity must be used from the question?Total Distance = h + 2*Sum of Geometric progression (to infinity)

h + 2*h/3 / 1-1/3
h + 2h/3 *3/2 = h + h = 2h

At first I did sum to infinity purely as it would give a neater answer excluding the variable n. Then I thought this might not be accurate as energy losses will mean the ball eventually comes to a stop. But the question was posed in the maths section of a paper. So should an assumption be, the ball suffers no energy loss and thus keeps on bouncing for ever?
 
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Sarah0001 said:
Then I thought this might not be accurate as energy losses will mean the ball eventually comes to a stop.
It depends what you mean by that.

In the simple mathematical model, it loses the same percentage of energy each bounce, so will execute infinitely many bounces. But each bounce is briefer than the one before, so total duration of bouncing could be finite.

In reality, it will come to the point where the ball's mass centre still oscillates some but the ball does not lose contact with the ground. Eventually this would be indistinguishable from thermal energy.
 
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The sum to infinity should be used because:

It is given by the problem that the height it bounces after the n-th bounce is ##\frac{h}{3^n}##. This height becomes zero , only when n becomes infinite, so ball comes to a stop only after infinitely many bounces. So the sum up to n=infinite should be used.

For every n finite, the height it bounces after the n-th bounce becomes as small as we want , but remains finite and not zero, that is for every finite n, ##\frac{h}{3^n}## is also finite and non zero.
 

1. What is a geometric progression?

A geometric progression is a sequence of numbers where each term is found by multiplying the previous term by a constant number called the common ratio. For example, in the sequence 2, 6, 18, 54, 162, the common ratio is 3 since each term is found by multiplying the previous term by 3.

2. How do you find the sum to infinity in geometric progression?

The sum to infinity in geometric progression is found by dividing the first term by 1 minus the common ratio. In other words, if the first term is represented by 'a' and the common ratio by 'r', the sum to infinity can be calculated as a / (1 - r).

3. What does it mean if the common ratio is less than 1 in a geometric progression?

If the common ratio is less than 1 in a geometric progression, it means that the sequence is converging towards a finite limit. As the terms in the sequence get smaller and smaller, the sum to infinity approaches a specific value.

4. Is it possible for a geometric progression to have a sum to infinity?

Yes, it is possible for a geometric progression to have a sum to infinity. If the common ratio is greater than or equal to 1, the sequence will diverge and the sum to infinity will be infinite. However, if the common ratio is less than 1, the sequence will converge and the sum to infinity will be a finite value.

5. How is geometric progression used in real life?

Geometric progression is commonly used in financial calculations, such as compound interest and annuities. It is also used in population growth and decay, as well as in the fields of physics and engineering to model exponential growth and decay.

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