Graviton Energy: Min. Amount & Universe Total

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The discussion centers on the minimum energy expected of a graviton and the total energy of all gravitons in the universe. It explores theoretical implications and challenges related to these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the minimum energy of a graviton is zero because they are massless.
  • Others argue that defining the total energy of all gravitons in the universe is complex and potentially problematic.
  • A participant suggests that a graviton with zero energy would lack the ability to interact, raising questions about its physical existence.
  • One participant notes that while a graviton can have arbitrarily small energy, it cannot be defined as having zero energy, drawing parallels to the minimum energy of a photon.
  • There is mention of the absence of an agreed-upon theory of quantum gravity that could provide a clearer understanding of these concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the minimum energy of a graviton, with some asserting it can be zero while others challenge this notion. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the total energy of gravitons in the universe.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in defining energy scales for hypothetical particles like the graviton and the complexities involved in quantum gravity theories.

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What is the minimum amount of energy that a graviton is expected to have?
And how much energy are all the gravitons in the universe expected to have in total?
 
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the minimum energy is zero because they are massless. I am not aware of any results involving the total energy of all the gravitons in the universe, and it is probably rather difficult to precisely define what is meant by the toatal energy.
 
jtolliver said:
the minimum energy is zero because they are massless. I am not aware of any results involving the total energy of all the gravitons in the universe, and it is probably rather difficult to precisely define what is meant by the toatal energy.
Not least because the graviton remains a hypothetical particle!
 
kurious said:
What is the minimum amount of energy that a graviton is expected to have?
And how much energy are all the gravitons in the universe expected to have in total?

It might be better if you ask the more tractable question: what is the energy expected from a gravity wave. :wink:

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I am not sure what sort of answer you expect. For a massive particle, the minimum possible energy it can possesses is its rest mass, when the particle has zero velocity (if we ignore the problems associated with such states in quantum mechanics). But the graviton is expected to be massless. One might be tempted to say that the answer would be zero. This unfortunately poses a problem: a graviton of zero energy has no energy, momentum, or ability to interact with anything else. Such a 'graviton' would be a complete dud and it is not very productive to ascribe physical existence to such things. Mathematics tells us that "the smallest number greater than, but not equal to zero" cannot be defined. So there is no answer to your question: a graviton can have arbitrarily small energy, but (IMO) not zero. There is no relation(*) that fixes a minimum energy or a quantum scale for it (contrast, for example, angular momentum which can be proven in QM to be quantized in increments of h-bar/2).
This question is similar to "what is the minimum energy of a photon?", which is equally undefined.


(*): There is no agreed upon theory of quantum gravity and it is possible that some such theories may allow for that.
 

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