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Special relativity shows that any accelerated observer
sees an event horizon. In fact, if an observer is accelerated
by a, the horizon is at distance l=c^2/a in the direction
opposite to a.
If an observer is on a carousel or merry-go-round,
he is accelerated inwards. Does he then see a horizon
on the outside?
If so, does a horizon also appear for an observer in orbit,
thus when circling the earth or the sun?
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George Jones
Jun19-09, 08:40 AM
No.
For an observer with constant 4-acceleration, there is a region of spacetime from which no signal reaches the accelerated observer. The boundary of this region is the horizon.
For the observer on a carousel, there is no such region of spacetime, and thus no horizon (boundary). A spacetime diagram that has two space dimensions and one time dimension shows this clearly.
No. For the observer on a carousel, there is no such region of spacetime, and thus no horizon (boundary). A spacetime diagram that has two space dimensions and one time dimension shows this clearly.
Thank you! Can I read this somewhere, maybe with a picture of the diagram?
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MeJennifer
Jun20-09, 03:42 AM
If so, does a horizon also appear for an observer in orbit,
thus when circling the earth or the sun?
An observer in orbit does not accelerate. Such an observer would travel on a "straight line".
George Jones
Jun21-09, 06:21 AM
Thank you! Can I read this somewhere, maybe with a picture of the diagram?
Hz
I haven't tried to find this anywhere.
Suppose that the centre of the carousel is in an inertial reference frame, that the plane of the carousel is the x-y plane, and that a person on the edge of the carousel moves with constant speed 1/2 (c=1).
Then, the coordinates of the person on the edge are x = \cos \left( t/2 \right) and y = \sin \left( t/2 \right). Plotting this worldline on a t-x-y spacetime diagram gives a helix about the t-axis (worldline of the centre).
Now pick an arbitrary event in spacetime. The attached spacetime diagram shows that there is a lightlike path from the event to the worldline of the person on the edge of the carousel.
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