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monolithic
Sep13-09, 01:16 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
0 < a < b
Must prove that a < sqrt(ab) < (a+b)/2 < b
2. Relevant equations
Well, relevant info. I am using Spivak's calculus book, where we have to prove everything.
3. The attempt at a solution
I'm not sure if I'm doing this right but here's my start.
I'll start with a < b. Multiply both sides by a, and you get a times a < a times b.
Then you get a^2 < ab
Then square root of a^2 < square root of ab.
a < square root of ab.
So I think i have the first part of that, but I'm not sure where to start for a+b/2?
VietDao29
Sep13-09, 01:47 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
0 < a < b
Must prove that a < sqrt(ab) < (a+b)/2 < b
2. Relevant equations
Well, relevant info. I am using Spivak's calculus book, where we have to prove everything.
3. The attempt at a solution
I'm not sure if I'm doing this right but here's my start.
I'll start with a < b. Multiply both sides by a, and you get a times a < a times b.
Then you get a^2 < ab
Then square root of a^2 < square root of ab.
a < square root of ab.
So I think i have the first part of that, but I'm not sure where to start for a+b/2?
\frac{a + b}{2} \geq \sqrt{ab}
This is actually a special case of Inequality of Arithmetic, and Geometric Means (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inequality_of_arithmetic_and_geometric_means#The_i nequality) (the case for n = 2, 2 terms). This case (n = 2) can be easily proven by isolating everything to one side, and use the fact that:
(x - y) ^ 2 = x ^ 2 - 2xy + y ^ 2 \geq 0
And for x \neq y, we have the equality:
(x - y) ^ 2 = x ^ 2 - 2xy + y ^ 2 {\color{red}>} 0
Let's see if you can take it from here.
And the last equality should be easy. :)
VietDao29 did you mean:
(\sqrt{x}-\sqrt{y})^2 \geq 0 ?
VietDao29
Sep13-09, 06:39 PM
VietDao29 did you mean:
(\sqrt{x}-\sqrt{y})^2 \geq 0 ?
No, I mean x, y; x, y in general.
elduderino
Sep13-09, 07:58 PM
My post got deleted?!! Im new to the forum here.. someone please shed light.
No, I mean x, y; x, y in general.
If he use x=a, and y=b in the inequality that I posted, it will be very easy to prove it. :smile:
HallsofIvy
Sep14-09, 06:15 AM
My post got deleted?!! Im new to the forum here.. someone please shed light.
You gave a complete solution rather than helping hints.
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