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kakarukeys
Jul5-04, 08:37 AM
In general AB =/= BA, for example,
orbital angular momentum operators, L_x, L_y.

but is A + B = B + A always true?

Galileo
Jul5-04, 09:15 AM
Yes.
(A+B)f=Af+Bf=Bf+Af=(B+A)f, so A+B = B +A

You are simply working with functions (Af and Bf), so the addition is commutative.

kakarukeys
Jul5-04, 09:28 AM
I think so, but this is puzzling to me:

put hbar = 1
L_x + L_y = L_y + L_x
so, exp(-i theta L_x) exp(-i theta L_y) = exp(-i theta L_y) exp(-i theta L_x)

that means rotation about x-axis and rotation about y-axis are commutative?


but rotate a book around x-axis 90 deg followed by y-axis 90 deg is not same as the other way round.

vanesch
Jul5-04, 09:33 AM
Warning: for (non-commuting) operators A and B,
you cannot write:

exp(A) exp(B) = exp(A+B)

!!

cheers,
patrick.

kakarukeys
Jul5-04, 09:41 AM
I see,
things become clear when you expand the exponentials

Thank you.

styler
Jul5-04, 03:34 PM
provided the domains of the operators allow for the sum to be defined, linear operators will respect the addition operation.

turin
Jul5-04, 06:41 PM
You have to be careful with your order of operations (associativity). Exponentiation first and then addition vs. addition first and then exponentiation. The exponentiation makes different operators, say:

eA = Ω and eB = Λ

Not only do you have to worry about A + B = B + A, which is almost trivial in a physics context, you must also worry about [Ω,Λ] = 0, which is often enough untrue.