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bitrex
Oct8-09, 10:29 PM
I'm looking over the differential equation describing a hanging cable in a textbook, and I probably need to review my trigonometric derivatives and integrals again because I'm not seeing how they got the following:

\frac{dy}{dx} = tan(\phi) \frac{ws}{T_0}

\frac{d^2y}{dx^2} = \frac{w}{T_0}\frac{ds}{dx}

\frac{ds}{dx} = [1 + (\frac{dy}{dx})^2]^\frac{1}{2}

ds/dx is the secant of phi, or something...any pointers would be appreciated!

HallsofIvy
Oct9-09, 07:50 AM
So what you are saying, then, is that y= y(x) is the equation of some graph and \phi(x) is the angle that graph makes, at each point, with a horizontal line. In other words, tan(\phi) is the slope of the tangent line: tan(\phi(x))= dy/dx and s(x) is the arclength from some point to (x, y(x)).

bitrex
Oct9-09, 05:55 PM
Thanks Halls - I see now how they got there - ds/dx is the derivative of the formula for arc length which I apparently temporarily forgot. :wink: