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There are square pyramidal numbers and tetrahedral numbers, defined
Square pyramidal numbers = n ( n + 1 )( 2 n + 1) / 6
1, 5, 14, 30, 55, 91, 140, 204, 285, 385, 506, 650, ...
Tetrahedral numbers = n ( n + 1 )( n + 2 ) / 6
1, 4, 10, 20, 35, 56, 84, 120, 165, 220, 286, 364, ...
and I was wondering if there's a number(s) besides 1 that is both.
hamster143
Oct29-09, 10:10 PM
I have to guess no. Purely for probabilistic reasons. For any number n, the probability that there is a pyramidal number equal to n(n+1)(n+2)/6 is ~1/n^2, falling off too fast as n -> infinity. So, for example, the probability of a hit for n>100 is ~0.01. Once we've checked the first 100 n's, we can be fairly sure that there won't be any hits beyond that.
But I have no idea how to give a proper proof.
The answer is no. You are looking for solutions of the equation:
\frac {n(n+1)(2n+1)}{6} = \frac {n(n+1)(n+2)}{6}
Cancelling terms we get
2n+1 = n+2
Solving for n you find n = 1 as the only solution
CRGreathouse
Oct30-09, 12:27 AM
The answer is no. You are looking for solutions of the equation:
\frac {n(n+1)(2n+1)}{6} = \frac {n(n+1)(n+2)}{6}
Cancelling terms we get
2n+1 = n+2
Solving for n you find n = 1 as the only solution
The OP is looking for solutions to
\frac {n(n+1)(2n+1)}{6} = \frac {m(m+1)(m+2)}{6}
not
\frac {n(n+1)(2n+1)}{6} = \frac {n(n+1)(n+2)}{6}
.
hamster143
Oct30-09, 03:48 AM
According to Mathworld, 1 is the only solution, and this fact was only proven in 1988 (so, no easy proof is forthcoming).
ramsey2879
Oct30-09, 02:39 PM
According to Mathworld, 1 is the only solution, and this fact was only proven in 1988 (so, no easy proof is forthcoming).
really? Can you give a cite?
CRGreathouse
Oct30-09, 02:52 PM
MathWorld gives
Beukers, F. "On Oranges and Integral Points on Certain Plane Cubic Curves." Nieuw Arch. Wisk. 6, 203-210, 1988.
but Nieuw Archief voor Wiskunde's online archives only go back to 2000.
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