The Earth's Magnetic Field & Energy

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on the Earth's magnetic field, specifically its strength at the poles and the energy required to produce a similar magnetic field using electromagnetism. Participants explore theoretical calculations and practical implementations related to generating magnetic fields, including the use of solenoids and energy density formulas.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the Earth's magnetic field at the poles is approximately 56,000 nT and inquire about the energy required to replicate this field using electromagnetism.
  • One participant suggests using Maxwell's equations for calculations but acknowledges that there may be simpler methods, mentioning that MRI machines can generate fields significantly stronger than the Earth's magnetic field.
  • Another participant proposes using a solenoid with DC current to create a magnetic field, providing the formula B = k*I*(N/L) to calculate the magnetic field strength based on current, winding density, and core permeability.
  • A different approach is presented involving the energy density formula U = B^2/(2μ), which calculates energy per unit volume and emphasizes that total energy depends on the volume of the magnetic field and additional losses in an electromagnet setup.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods and considerations for calculating the energy required to produce a magnetic field, but there is no consensus on a single approach or solution. Multiple competing views and methods remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention factors such as wire resistance, cooling power for superconductors, and the distinction between permanent magnets and electromagnets, indicating that these aspects may affect the calculations but are not fully resolved in the discussion.

Bjarne
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At the Earths magnetic North (and South) Pole the Earths magnetic field is about 56 000 nT

I wonder hole much energy (approximately ) - kW or Joule should we use if we should produce a similar magnetic field by electromagnetism.

(How can that be calculated?)
 
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Bjarne said:
At the Earths magnetic North (and South) Pole the Earths magnetic field is about 56 000 nT

I wonder hole much energy (approximately ) - kW or Joule should we use if we should produce a similar magnetic field by electromagnetism.

(How can that be calculated?)

You could use Maxwell's equations... I'm sure there is an easier way but anyhow I can mention that we can generate much stronger fields without too much trouble... Hell, MRI machine for animals (for experimental use) can be over 20 Tesla, that's 357142 times stronger than the Earth's field. (regular MRI machines for people are only 53571 times stronger than the Earth's field however)
 
One way is to simply make a solenoid and pass DC current through it. The magnetic field within the solenoid B = k*I*(N/L), where 'k' is a constant (permeability/2*pi), and N/L the number of turns/length (i.e. turns/cm). You can adjust the magnitude of the B field by adjusting the current, the winding density, or the permeability of the core (e.g. iron vs. air).
 
Bjarne said:
(How can that be calculated?)

You can apply the energy density formula [tex]U={{B^2}\over{2\mu}}[/tex]

This provides energy per unit volume U (in Joules/m^3) using SI units for magnetic field density B and permeability [tex]\mu[/tex].

So energy will depend on the volume over which you establish the field. There will be additional energy required due to losses. If you use the energy to make a permanent magnet then you don't need to worry about power. However, if you make an electromagnet, this energy field must be maintained by using continuous power. This power will depend on the losses, such as wire resistance in a coil, or cooling power if you use superconductors.
 

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