How Is Energy Calculated for Moving an Object Away from Earth's Surface?

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The discussion revolves around deriving a formula for the energy required to move an object from the Earth's surface to a height \( h \). The original poster presents equations involving gravitational force and work, questioning the definitions and relationships between these concepts.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand why work is expressed as a difference in gravitational potential and how force relates to the gravitational constant and mass. They question the transition from force to work and the integration process involved.

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Some participants provide clarifications regarding the gravitational constant and the nature of work in relation to variable forces. There is ongoing exploration of the integration of force over distance, with participants seeking alternative explanations for the integration process.

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Participants note confusion regarding the assumptions made in the derivation of work and the implications of variable versus constant forces in the context of gravitational calculations.

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hi!
in my book they are trying to derive a formula for how much energy is needed to move an object height h from the Earth's surface. so large that:

dent's total work (W) spent a
to move a body with mass m from the Earth to a point at distance R from the center of the earth:
[tex]W=c\cdot m\cdot M\cdot (\frac{1}{R_0}-\frac{1}{R})[/tex]
c = 6.66 * 10 ^ -11, R_0 = 6370
when R increases approaching the term 1 / R all zero, and work to keep a body from the Earth's surface infinitely far into the universe can be calculated by the formula
[tex]W=c\cdot \frac{m\cdot M}{R_0}[/tex]
what I can not really understand is that work is defined as force*distance, W=F*s.
why is [tex]\frac{1}{R_0}-\frac{1}{R}=distance[/tex] and why is [tex]c\cdot m\cdot M=force[/tex]??

can someone explain to me, thanks

2) why is [tex]c\cdot m\cdot M[/tex] the same at [tex]m\cdot g\cdot R^2_0[/tex], also
[tex]c\cdot m\cdot M=m\cdot g\cdot R^2_0[/tex]
 
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Hi aloshi! :smile:

(It's not c, it's G. :wink:)

Work isn't force*distance unless the force is constant.

Work is the integral of force wrt distance … W = ∫ F.ds,

and in this case F = GMm/r2, so W = ∫ GMm/r2 dr = GMm/r + constant. :smile:
 


tiny-tim said:
Hi aloshi! :smile:

(It's not c, it's G. :wink:)

Work isn't force*distance unless the force is constant.

Work is the integral of force wrt distance … W = ∫ F.ds,

and in this case F = GMm/r2, so W = ∫ GMm/r2 dr = GMm/r + constant. :smile:
but I can not about Integration, can you explain in a different way? pleas
 


tiny-tim said:
Hi aloshi! :smile:

(It's not c, it's G. :wink:)

Work isn't force*distance unless the force is constant.

Work is the integral of force wrt distance … W = ∫ F.ds,

and in this case F = GMm/r2, so W = ∫ GMm/r2 dr = GMm/r + constant. :smile:

unless the force is not constant, way they write the worke sow??

and i find this:
[tex]W=\int_{r=R_0}^{R}Fdr=\int_{r=R_0}^{R}\frac{cmM}{r^2}dr=cmM\int_{r=R_0}^{R}\frac{1}{r^2}dr=cmM\[-\frac{1}{r}\]_{R_0}^R=cmM\(\frac{1}{R_0}-\frac{1}{R}\)[/tex]
but i can not anderstund't
 
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