QM light experiements at home.

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility and methods of conducting quantum mechanics (QM) light experiments at home, particularly focusing on accessible experiments that can be performed with relatively simple materials. Participants share various ideas and suggestions for experiments, as well as express their experiences and thoughts on the evolution of technology related to light experiments.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests performing a single slit diffraction experiment using a laser and a human hair, detailing the setup and calculations involved.
  • Another participant mentions the possibility of observing color variations in soap bubbles to illustrate concepts related to light wavelengths.
  • A different approach involves using a CD as a diffraction grating to explore light patterns.
  • Some participants reflect on the accessibility of modern lasers, contrasting them with past experiences of expensive and bulky laser technology.
  • One participant proposes that a simple setup with a light bulb and slits can demonstrate Young's double slit experiment, although they note that it primarily illustrates classical wave behavior rather than quantum properties.
  • Another participant argues that demonstrating quantum properties requires more sophisticated equipment, such as photomultiplier tubes and oscilloscopes, which may not be feasible for all home experimenters.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of low-cost experiments in unambiguously demonstrating quantum phenomena.
  • One participant describes a creative method using a flashlight and a card with holes to create a visual effect, though they acknowledge the complexity of explaining the underlying physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the feasibility and clarity of various home experiments. While some agree on the potential of certain experiments, others question their ability to effectively demonstrate quantum concepts. No consensus is reached on which experiments are definitively suitable for illustrating quantum mechanics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight limitations in the proposed experiments, such as the dependence on specific equipment and the potential for ambiguity in demonstrating quantum effects. The discussion reflects a variety of assumptions about the capabilities and resources of home experimenters.

Glenn
Hi,
Reading about physics is a pastime of mine. I have read about many of the famous experiemts such as Young's double slit experiment and such.

I would like to do some of these experiements at home to start teaching my kids about QM and light.

What types of QM light experiments are within reach for the serious home experimenter? Are there any books or references that are tailored to this type of work?

I am an engineer by day, spend my after hours building full size experimental aircraft, telescopes, etc... so complex or precise construction won't scare me away, nor will a having to purchase some moderately priced components if need be.

Any thoughts or recommendations?

Thanks,
Glenn
 
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there is an easy experiment with single slit diffraction. All you need is a 5 dollar laser, you can purchace them nowadays in convenence stores. What you do is take a human hair, strap it vertically between two holders and let there be vertical portion hanging out in mid air. Now aim your laser at the hair, and observe the effect about 5m away. It would act as a single slit and it should have a single slit diffraction pattern. You can calculate the width of the hair by measuring out the spacing of the fringes of light 5 m away. Use equations like dsin(theta) = m(lamda), where d is the width of the slit, or hair in this case. m is the fringe number as an integer, starting from the centre fringe as 0. Lamda is the wavelength of light. You can also use dx/L = m(lamda), where x is the fringe spacing, and L is the distance from the screen to the hair.

You can also do and experiment with soap bubbles. When you watch a soap bubble, you see different colours at different heights of it. This is double inversion, and it teaches about thickness of the bubble and the wavelength of light.

You can also do a diffraction grating by aiming your lased at a cd. You will see a grating appear on your ceeling if you aim the laser at a 45 degree angle. Using the equations I stated above, you can find out lots of neat stuff about CD's and light.
 
My God! Now people refer casually to "5 dollar lasers" that you can buy in convenience stores! Am I the only one so old that I can remember when lasers cost a hundred thousand dollars and required a whole room to themselves?

(Now that I think of it, I also remember when computers required a whole room to themselves- and had 16 K memory!)
 
HallsofIvy said:
My God! Now people refer casually to "5 dollar lasers" that you can buy in convenience stores! Am I the only one so old that I can remember when lasers cost a hundred thousand dollars and required a whole room to themselves?

(Now that I think of it, I also remember when computers required a whole room to themselves- and had 16 K memory!)

Oh, phew! I thought I was the only one who still remember computer punch cards! :)

Zz.
 
You don't need a laser in order to perform the Yojung's double slit experiment, infact all you need is a light bulb, some 'blinds' and a metal sheet with suitably sized slits (when I was school we had loads of these kits consisting of a normal light bulb in a wooden frame with suitable places for blinds and slits to be slotted in).
 
Of course though ther double slit experiment only really demsontsrtes the classical wave model of light and doesn't in itself demonstrate the need for quantum physics.
 
jcsd said:
Of course though ther double slit experiment only really demsontsrtes the classical wave model of light and doesn't in itself demonstrate the need for quantum physics.

Indeed, I think that if you want to demonstrate quantum properties, that you need one, or a few, photomultiplier tubes, with associated electronics, and a oscilloscope and/or an acquisition system on a PC. This can quickly become expensive (although maybe not for someone who builds airplanes in his spare time :biggrin:

cheers,
Patrick.
 
It's a question that's been asked svereal time before and I've always been a little dubious of whether some of the cut-price experiments that have been described will unambigously demonstrate what they are meant to demonstarte.

That said I guess that an experiment to illustarte the photoelectric effect and thus show the quantum nature of light wouldn't be too hard to perform.
 
I have a way. Take a card from a deck or an index card or something, get a flashlight, and poke two holes in it that is smaller than the circumfrence of the flashlight head, and at night put the card up to the light with the two holes inside, and aim it at a ceiling or wall. You will see two lights, but in the middle will be the brightest spot of all, with two spirals connected. It is very beautiful, but it is too complicated to write how it does this here.
 

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