Understanding Double Inner Product Calculation in Multivariable Calculus

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The discussion focuses on the calculation of the double inner product involving the vector field \( u = (u, v, w) \) and the expression \( (\nabla u + (\nabla u)^T) : \nabla u \). A participant highlights the confusion regarding the notation, particularly the use of \( u \) for both the vector and its components, and questions the meaning of the ":" operator, suggesting it may refer to the dot product. The correct interpretation involves recognizing \( \nabla u \) as a second rank tensor, where the double inner product is applied between the tensors on either side of the ":" operator.

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Hi, I'm having trouble understanding how to perform the following calculation:

<br /> u=(u,v,w)<br />

<br /> (\nabla u + (\nabla u)^T) : \nabla u<br />

I get the following by doing the dot product of the first term and then adding the dot product of the second term, but I'm pretty sure it isn't correct.

<br /> 2\left(\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}\right)^2 <br /> + 2\left(\frac{\partial v}{\partial y}\right)^2 <br /> + 2\left(\frac{\partial w}{\partial z}\right)^2 <br />

Could someone please shed some light on how the double inner product should work?
Thanks
 
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Smed said:
Hi, I'm having trouble understanding how to perform the following calculation:

<br /> u=(u,v,w)<br />

<br /> (\nabla u + (\nabla u)^T) : \nabla u<br />
Your notation here doesn't make sense to me. If you are using "u" to represent a vector, don't use the same "u" to represent one of its components. If you are writing \nabla u as, say, a row vector, then [itex[(\nabl u)^T[/itex] would be a column vector and you cannot add them. In general, a vector and its transpose are in different vector spaces and cannot be added. Finally, I don't know what ":" means. Was that supposed to be \cdot?

I get the following by doing the dot product of the first term and then adding the dot product of the second term, but I'm pretty sure it isn't correct.

<br /> 2\left(\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}\right)^2 <br /> + 2\left(\frac{\partial v}{\partial y}\right)^2 <br /> + 2\left(\frac{\partial w}{\partial z}\right)^2 <br />

Could someone please shed some light on how the double inner product should work?
Thanks
 
I think it is related to the definition in section 1.3.2 found here:
http://www.foamcfd.org/Nabla/guides/ProgrammersGuidese3.html

It is for a pair of rank 2 tensors, and is denoted by a :

The \nabla u's used in the original post are interpreted as second rank tensors, and the double inner product is applied between the terms on each side of the :

Haven't got time to check the calculation myself.

Torquil
 

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