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wolram
Aug3-04, 08:45 AM
It is my understanding, that space time is expanding, and that
gravitationally bound bodies will stay unaffected by this expansion
while unbound bodies will.
but is gravity the only force that can overcome this effect?
could magnetic or electro static forces hold bodies in station?
I do not propose this as an alternative theory, rather i want to
know if the mentioned forces grow with ST

Olias
Aug3-04, 11:27 AM
It is my understanding, that space time is expanding, and that
gravitationally bound bodies will stay unaffected by this expansion
while unbound bodies will.
but is gravity the only force that can overcome this effect?
could magnetic or electro static forces hold bodies in station?
I do not propose this as an alternative theory, rather i want to
know if the mentioned forces grow with ST

What you are really asking is,what is the Cosmic Scale Factor for Gravitational Energies?

Try here:http://www.superstringtheory.com/forum/dualboard/messages9/3.html

its a old posting (about 16 months ago) , that happens to have some far reaching insights contained.

sol2
Aug3-04, 12:15 PM
What you are really asking is,what is the Cosmic Scale Factor for Gravitational Energies?

Try here:http://www.superstringtheory.com/forum/dualboard/messages9/3.html

its a old posting (about 16 months ago) , that happens to have some far reaching insights contained.

Great link Olias

I hope some will comment on the thought process that was detailed.

It seems valid for our converstaion in strings/lqg thread in regards to smolin

wolram
Aug5-04, 02:52 PM
Olias
L is not that clearly identified as torque as in my G = xy, but in g of equation (1) we have Lc^2 r/3 so that L is just throwing in r* factor essentially and the whole g composite looks like a "vacuum energy" torque. Regarding L as a force, on the other hand, then we have a torque (admittedly with a rather unusual force arm) and from the r" equation the g term eventually dominates in r". r" is like a force without a mass in the Newtonian "ma" force picture, but I suppose that L contributes its own "mass"
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I have had some difficulty digesting this, I have read the article several times
now and i think i understand, but because i have only just climbed out of my
tree a little more insight would be appreciated.