Solving Spherical Shells: Voltage at r=0 & Potential Difference

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The problem involves calculating the voltage at the center of a charged steel sphere and the potential difference between this sphere and a surrounding copper shell. The context includes concepts from electrostatics, specifically related to spherical charge distributions and electric potential.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss different methods for calculating voltage, including integration of electric fields and the application of limits. There is mention of differing results obtained from various approaches, including one from a professor and another from an ebook.

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Some participants express agreement on the approach to finding the voltage, while others question the necessity of limits in the integration process. There is a focus on verifying calculations and ensuring all aspects of the problem are considered, but no consensus has been reached on the final answers.

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Participants note the potential for confusion regarding the limits of integration and the implications of the charge distribution. The problem's straightforward nature is acknowledged, yet there remains curiosity about possible oversights in the reasoning.

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Homework Statement



A steel sphere of radius 2.5 cm has a positive charge of 400 nC and it is surrounded by a plastic sphere of radius 10 cm that has the same properties as free space. This plastic sphere is coated with a thin copper metal and has a charge of -400 nC.

What is the value for the voltage at r=0 and the potential difference between the steel sphere and the copper shell?

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I am getting like 2 answers. I got one of them from my professor, I got the other one using a method which was described on my ebook's site.



This is the way that I did:


-[tex]\int[/tex] [tex]\frac{ K Qinside}{r^2}[/tex] dr

where the upper limit of the integral is a and lower limit is b. And in this case a=2.5cm and b = 10 cm.

I arrive at that expression for V at r=0 with this

V = -[tex]\int[/tex] [tex]\frac{ K Qinside}{r^2}[/tex] dr -[tex]\int[/tex] [tex]\frac{ K Qinside}{r^2}[/tex] dr -[tex]\int[/tex] [tex]\frac{ K Qinside}{r^2}[/tex] dr

And here the limit of the 1st integral is upper limit is b and lower is [tex]\infty[/tex], 2nd integral: upper is a and lower is b, 3rd: upper is 0 and lower is a

Now the integral from [tex]\infty[/tex] to b becomes 0 because the charge (400-400) will add up to 0.

Integal from a to 0 is 0 because voltage inside a conductor is always 0.

The remaining stuff is from a to b and this is how I arrived.
The answer for that is 107880


If you want to understand it further clearly
download this file: http://www.sendspace.com/file/3cx5bj


What my professor did is:

-[tex]\int[/tex] [tex]\frac{ K Qinside}{r^2}[/tex] dr

Without any limits and solved it with r = 2.5 cm which gives answer of 144000V


All this is for r=0 the first part of the question.

And I don't know what will the 2nd part be.
 
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You're doing
[tex]V(r)=\int E \cdot dl[/tex]
right?

You have to have limits, I don't know how your professor would do it any other way. You of course want to look at the region between a and b, as you said.

Did you get this?
[tex]V=\frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon_0}(\frac{q}{b}-\frac{q}{a})[/tex]
 
Ya right? This is exactly what I said.

And this will be the answer for r=0 and even the potential difference right?
 
So let's see here:

V=9*10^9*(400*10^-9/(10*10^-2)-400*10^-9/(2.5*10^-2))=-108000V

I think you're right. I'm really curious to see if we missed something as the problem is very straightforward.
 

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