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Anzas
Aug10-04, 11:15 AM
is it true that this function:
f(n) = 3^(n)+2

will give a prime number for any natural value of n?

Muzza
Aug10-04, 11:39 AM
Nope, f(5) = 3^5 + 2 = 245 = 5 * 7^2.

Exercise: prove that f(n) assumes an infinite number of composite values.

mathman
Aug10-04, 04:11 PM
To the best of my knowledge, there is no known algebraic expression that generates primes.

Muzza
Aug10-04, 04:21 PM
Well, you can get kind of close ;) http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Prime-GeneratingPolynomial.html,


However, there exists a polynomial in 10 variables with integer coefficients such that the set of primes equals the set of positive values of this polynomial obtained as the variables run through all nonnegative integers, although it is really a set of Diophantine equations in disguise (Ribenboim 1991). Jones, Sato, Wada, and Wiens have also found a polynomial of degree 25 in 26 variables whose positive values are exactly the prime numbers (Flannery and Flannery 2000, p. 51).

Anzas
Aug11-04, 04:29 AM
how about the function
f(n) = 3^(2n)+2

where n is a natural number

Muzza
Aug11-04, 04:33 AM
No. Have you even tried looking for a counterexample? One exists in the really small natural numbers.

mathwonk
Sep18-04, 10:59 PM
in the examples cited from wolfram it sounds as if one may have no clue which inputs actually give primes (i.e. positive outputs) and which do not.

matt grime
Sep19-04, 07:27 AM
It may sound that way since it is true.

Gokul43201
Sep19-04, 11:58 AM
how about the function
f(n) = 3^(2n)+2

where n is a natural number

You can keep trying but you won't find a prime number function this way.

I think the only known single-parameter function that generates primes is the one involving Mill's constant : f(n) = [M^3^n]

mathwonk
Sep19-04, 12:18 PM
what is mills constant? the 3^n th root of 3?

this does not sound promising Gokul. unless this "constant" is like my brother the engineers "fudge factor", i.e. the ratio between my answer and the right answer.

actually isn't it obvious no formula of this type, taking higher powers of the same thing, can ever give more than one prime?

or are you using brackets to mean something like the next smaller integer? even then I am highly skeptical. of course the rime number graph is convex, so has some sort of shape like an exponential, by the rpime number theorem, i guess, but what can you get out of that?

maybe asymptotically you might say something about a large number, unlikely even infinitely many, primes.

but i am a total novice here.

CTS
Sep19-04, 12:36 PM
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/MillsConstant.html

mathwonk
Sep19-04, 07:03 PM
oh great, so "mills constant" is not even known. so the formula [M^(3^n)]. is not actually an explicit formula at all.

in fact apparently mills constant is computed by computing the primes instead.