View Full Version : A possible way to produce thrust from ZPE?
alpha_wolf
Aug12-04, 02:43 AM
Take two plates of a suitable material, and attach them at one end at a 90 degree angle, such that they form a V shaped assembly. The plates will block some of the vacuum flactuation frequencies inside the V, so a Casimir-like force will appear on the two plates. But since the plates are at an angle, I suspect that the forces should not be exactly opposite each other, and should therefore not cancel out. If this is correct, that would produce a small amount of net force, probably in the direction of the V's "mouth".
I think this should be easily testable by using sound waves as a model... Have any such tests been made? Have anyone done calculations on this geometry? Any other comments/thoughts on the matter?
alpha_wolf
Aug13-04, 09:58 AM
I did some more thinking on this. It would seem that for the described geometry, all forces excerted on the system by the vacuum flactuations would cancel out. But perhaps a different geometry could be designed, where that does not occur...
Russell E. Rierson
Aug14-04, 01:49 AM
I did some more thinking on this. It would seem that for the described geometry, all forces excerted on the system by the vacuum flactuations would cancel out. But perhaps a different geometry could be designed, where that does not occur...
Is the total energy of the vacuum fluctuations in the universe exactly zero? Or does there exist a slight non-zero energy contribution TO the universe? If so, then it should be possible to model the effect, then experimentally tap into the energy and amplify it. I suspect that resonance will play a big part in the design of a vacuum-fluctuation machine.
Chronos
Aug14-04, 03:28 PM
Is the total energy of the vacuum fluctuations in the universe exactly zero? Or does there exist a slight non-zero energy contribution TO the universe? If so, then it should be possible to model the effect, then experimentally tap into the energy and amplify it. I suspect that resonance will play a big part in the design of a vacuum-fluctuation machine.
The answer is... zero [give or take a quantum fluctuation]. See
http://www.sciam.com/askexpert_question.cfm?articleID=00045486-6600-1C71-9EB7809EC588F2D7&catID=3
Russell E. Rierson
Aug14-04, 03:58 PM
The answer is... zero [give or take a quantum fluctuation]. See
http://www.sciam.com/askexpert_question.cfm?articleID=00045486-6600-1C71-9EB7809EC588F2D7&catID=3
Are these people conducting serious research?
http://www.calphysics.org/aboutcipa.html
ZPE:
http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html
what_are_electrons
Aug17-04, 12:16 AM
Are these people conducting serious research?
http://www.calphysics.org/aboutcipa.html
ZPE:
http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html
Perhaps you might get a copy of a paperback book called "Does Time Exist?" by Henri Salles (2002 by 1st Books Library). What Henri has sorted out on his own seems to be a good match for what B. Haisch has been doing for some time. I have no clue if these two know each other.
Chronos
Aug17-04, 12:58 AM
Are these people conducting serious research?
http://www.calphysics.org/aboutcipa.html
ZPE:
http://www.calphysics.org/zpe.html
The authors of the Scientific American article are respected authorities who write textbooks and articles in mainstream science. I will pay more attention to the 'California Institute of Physics and Astronomy' [CIPA] when they publish a 'paper' that is more fact than fiction. You would be well advised to check the credibility of your sources before citing them.
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