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cristina
Aug13-04, 01:48 AM
Int (x+ arcsin (x))/(sqrt(1-x^2))

It's not working when I put U = (x+ arcsin (x)) and dU= 1/(sqrt(1-x^2)
Is there anyway to solve it?

Thanks

Muzza
Aug13-04, 02:34 AM
If u = x + arcsin(x), then du = (1 + 1/sqrt(1 - x^2))dx. Maybe that's why it "isn't working".

Galileo
Aug13-04, 03:36 AM
Split the integral and remember (or look up) the derivative of arcsin(x)

Zurtex
Aug13-04, 07:12 AM
As Galileo says:

\int \frac{x + \arcsin x}{\sqrt{1 + x^2}} dx = \int \frac{x}{\sqrt{1 + x^2}} dx + \int \frac{\arcsin x}{\sqrt{1 + x^2}}dx

Which makes the former integral of that quite easy, however the latter integral is of the form f(x) / f'(x) which has no standard result. Although it does have a solution it is very long and extremely complex, are you sure this is the integral you were given?

Galileo
Aug13-04, 07:26 AM
As Galileo says:

\int \frac{x + \arcsin x}{\sqrt{1 + x^2}} dx = \int \frac{x}{\sqrt{1 + x^2}} dx + \int \frac{\arcsin x}{\sqrt{1 + x^2}}dx

Which makes the former integral of that quite easy, however the latter integral is of the form f(x) / f'(x) which has no standard result. Although it does have a solution it is very long and extremely complex, are you sure this is the integral you were given?

The integrand is \frac{\arcsin x}{\sqrt{1 - x^2}}
with a minus sign, so the integrand has the form f(x)f'(x) :smile:

Zurtex
Aug13-04, 11:06 AM
I'm really sorry, I don't know where my mind went, your totally right.

cristina
Aug13-04, 04:45 PM
Can I do it with UV - Integra (VdU)

Zurtex
Aug13-04, 04:50 PM
Can I do it with UV - Integra (VdU)
Your probably can but both the integrals are simple substiutions.

cristina
Aug13-04, 05:15 PM
can you explain more pls?

Zurtex
Aug13-04, 05:38 PM
Whenever you have an integral of the form:

\int gf(x) * a * f'(x) dx

Where 'a' is some constant, then if you use the substitution u = f(x) you get:

du = f'(x)dx

a \int g(u) du

You can do this quite easily with both your integrals to get fairly easy integrals.