right hand palm rule and right hand clasp rule

[logearav]

are both right hand palm rule and right hand clasp rule different? or are they same/

[Doc Al]

are both right hand palm rule and right hand clasp rule different? or are they same/
The palm rule is usually for finding the magnetic force on a moving charge and the grip rule is for finding the direction of the magnetic field surrounding a current. They are both ways of specifying the direction of a vector cross product.

That said, there are many variations. See Right Hand Rule (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfor.html#c3) and Magnetic Field of Current (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magcur.html#c1).

[Stonebridge]

It gets very complicated indeed, because here in the UK we talk about Fleming's Left Hand (Motor) Rule and the Right Hand (Dynamo) Rule; as well as the right hand cork-screw (or grip) rule. All rules use conventional (positive current).

[logearav]

thanks mr. doc al and mr. stonebridge.