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thereddevils
Apr26-10, 04:45 AM
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
Solve x-\sqrt{x}-6=0
2. Relevant equations
3. The attempt at a solution
This can be factorised into (\sqrt{x}-3)(\sqrt{x}+2)=0
so \sqrt{x}=3 , x=9 .
\sqrt{x}=-2 ... Why is this root not acceptable ?
I recalled that if
x^2=4 , then x=\pm 2
but if x=\sqrt{4} , then x=2
Is this true ?
Mentallic
Apr26-10, 05:04 AM
Yes, it is conventional that the square root is only the positive, so while x^2=4 and therefore x=\pm 2 ... if \sqrt{x}=-2 then this cannot be solved with x=4 since \sqrt{4}=2 and not \sqrt{4}=\pm 2.
thereddevils
Apr26-10, 05:15 AM
Yes, it is conventional that the square root is only the positive, so while x^2=4 and therefore x=\pm 2 ... if \sqrt{x}=-2 then this cannot be solved with x=4 since \sqrt{4}=2 and not \sqrt{4}=\pm 2.
thanks , but why is it so , since when you square x=-2 , you still get 4 ?
HallsofIvy
Apr26-10, 07:17 AM
Because (-2)(-2)= (-1)(-1)(4) and (-1)(-1)= +1.
thereddevils
Apr26-10, 08:03 AM
Because (-2)(-2)= (-1)(-1)(4) and (-1)(-1)= +1.
thanks i know that , i just wonder why is it conventional for the square root positive only , why isn't the negative taken into consideration in this case ?
Gigasoft
Apr26-10, 12:57 PM
The square root is a function. Do you know the definition of a function?
thereddevils
Apr27-10, 05:29 AM
The square root is a function. Do you know the definition of a function?
I think so , say y=\sqrt{x} , and any input would generate only one image , why cant this image be -2 instead of 2 if the input is 4
HallsofIvy
Apr27-10, 05:41 AM
thanks , but why is it so , since when you square x=-2 , you still get 4 ?
Sorry, I misunderstood your question. A "function" can give only one value for each value of x so we must choose either the positive or negative root0. We could define \sqrt{x} to be the negative root but then we would have problems with "compositions" such as \sqrt{\sqrt{x}} since the square root of a negative number is not defined in the real number system.
thereddevils
Apr27-10, 05:55 AM
Sorry, I misunderstood your question. A "function" can give only one value for each value of x so we must choose either the positive or negative root0. We could define \sqrt{x} to be the negative root but then we would have problems with "compositions" such as \sqrt{\sqrt{x}} since the square root of a negative number is not defined in the real number system.
thanks a lot Hallsofivy , i finally understood.
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