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Identity
May3-10, 10:24 AM
Say you have a potential step problem where the potential steps up from V=0 to V=V_0 at x=0. If the incident particle has energy E <V_0, you get a non-normalisable solution for the wavefunction.
How can you interpret |\psi|^2 for this non-normalisable solution? Is it still the probability density or does it mean something else?
Thanks
LostConjugate
May3-10, 11:14 AM
You get two solutions, one is normalizable and one is not. We throw out the non-normalizable solution as it is not in Hilbert Space and is not a probability amplitude. It is curious why it is there, I think it stems back to our method of differential equations, rigorous mathematics may prove it is not a solution.
Identity
May4-10, 04:16 AM
I'm not sure if you understood what I meant, sorry
The general solution is of the form:
\psi(x) = \begin{cases} Ae^{ik_1x}+A\frac{k_1-k_2}{k_1+k_2}e^{-ik_1x} \ \ \ \ \ \ x < 0\\\\ A\frac{2k_1}{k_1+k_2}e^{ik_2x}\ \ \ \ \ \ x \geq 0\end{cases}
Hence,
|\psi(x)|^2 = \begin{cases} A^2\left[1+\left(\frac{k_1-k_2}{k_1+k_2}\right)^2+2\frac{k_1-k_2}{k_1+k_2}\cos{2k_1x}\right] \ \ \ \ \ \ x < 0 \\\\ A^2\frac{4k_1^2}{(k_1+k_2)^2}\ \ \ \ \ \ x \geq 0\end{cases}
For x<0 we have a cosine wave which can't be normalised, since it has a vertical translation
For x>0 we have a constant, which is certainly not normalisable.
The are continuous and differentiable at x=0, and in all regions satisfy the schrodinger equation for the potential step
However, since they are NOT normalisable, how do you interpret them?
SpectraCat
May4-10, 06:24 AM
I'm not sure if you understood what I meant, sorry
The general solution is of the form:
\psi(x) = \begin{cases} Ae^{ik_1x}+A\frac{k_1-k_2}{k_1+k_2}e^{-ik_1x} \ \ \ \ \ \ x < 0\\\\ A\frac{2k_1}{k_1+k_2}e^{ik_2x}\ \ \ \ \ \ x \geq 0\end{cases}
Hence,
|\psi(x)|^2 = \begin{cases} A^2\left[1+\left(\frac{k_1-k_2}{k_1+k_2}\right)^2+2\frac{k_1-k_2}{k_1+k_2}\cos{2k_1x}\right] \ \ \ \ \ \ x < 0 \\\\ A^2\frac{4k_1^2}{(k_1+k_2)^2}\ \ \ \ \ \ x \geq 0\end{cases}
For x<0 we have a cosine wave which can't be normalised, since it has a vertical translation
For x>0 we have a constant, which is certainly not normalisable.
The are continuous and differentiable at x=0, and in all regions satisfy the schrodinger equation for the potential step
However, since they are NOT normalisable, how do you interpret them?
The solutions you are talking about are the plane wave solutions, and all of the problems you raise are also problems for a plane wave. Mathematically, plane waves are the momentum eigenstates, so you could interpret your results as showing the intereference between the incoming and reflected plane waves in the x<0 region, and as showing the transmitted plane wave in the x>0 region. However, there is a chicken and egg problem with this analysis, because it is time-independent and distributed over all space. Thus, as you say, it is a mathematical solution with little direct physical significance.
If you want to make your life a little harder, you can try solving the time-dependent version of this problems, where you start with a (normalized) wavepacket incident on the barrier from one side or the other. You can then propagate the wavepacket and see what happens when it encounters the barrier. The math is significantly more difficult, but the results are more physically significant. However, the qualitative insights about quantum phenomena are the same; the wavepacket splits into a reflected part and a transmitted part, and the reflected part interferes with the incoming wavepacket on its way back out (for a finite time).
Thus the static plane wave picture still gets you the quantum weirdness (barrier penentration for E<V and over-barrier reflection for E>V), but you have to work a lot less hard on the math. I think that is the main reason that the plane wave solutions for this 1-D problem (and many others), are taught in intro courses.
LostConjugate
May4-10, 10:31 AM
I don't see how you got those solutions for E less than V. For X > 0 you should have
Cexp[-sqrt(2m(V-E))x/h-bar]
I use C as a constant because the amplitude changes when the potential changes. Also the exponential is negative, the positive exponential is thrown out.
Also your incoming and reflected waves functions should not have the same amplitude.
George Jones
May4-10, 11:45 AM
I don't see how you got those solutions for E less than V. For X > 0 you should have
For x>0, \psi \left( x \right) is okay if k_2 is imaginary, but \left| \psi \left( x \right) \right|^2 is incorrect because then \left| \exp \left( i k_2 x \right) \right| \ne 1.
Also your incoming and reflected waves functions should not have the same amplitude.
I think they are okay. Note that the reflected wave has a constant multiplying A.
LostConjugate
May4-10, 11:53 AM
I think they are okay. Note that the reflected wave has a constant multiplying A.
Ahh..
SpectraCat
May4-10, 01:27 PM
I don't see how you got those solutions for E less than V. For X > 0 you should have
Cexp[-sqrt(2m(V-E))x/h-bar]
I use C as a constant because the amplitude changes when the potential changes. Also the exponential is negative, the positive exponential is thrown out.
Yes, you are right ... I had just assumed we were talking about E>V ... for which he gave the correct solutions.
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