View Full Version : Why is h-bar rather than h used in Planck units?
diagopod
May22-10, 03:21 PM
Learning a bit more about Planck units, it looks like a number of arguably arbitrary, or at least pragmatic, choices had to be made, regarding using G versus 4piG, using 1/4piEpsiolon0 versus Epsilon0, and so on, but in the reading I don't see any question that h/2pi, rather than h, is the best choice when it comes to h, and was just curious about that.
Planck units are arbitrary, as are any set of units. The reason why \hbar is set to 1 rather than h is simply because you tend to use the former a lot more. (e.g. the momentum operator)
Personally i don't have any need for gravity, but do want a simpler expression for coulomb potentials, so I use Atomic Units instead.
diagopod
May22-10, 06:45 PM
The reason why \hbar is set to 1 rather than h is simply because you tend to use the former a lot more. (e.g. the momentum operator)
Thanks for the reply. I did notice that h-bar seems to be necessary to produce the dimensionless fine-structure constant. Without it, we would have to say 2 pi e^2 / hc (in cgs) right or am I missing something there?
It just turns out that h/2pi appears in so many equations that hbar is a convenient constant. Then it turns out that 1 is even more convenient.
diagopod
May24-10, 03:19 PM
It just turns out that h/2pi appears in so many equations that hbar is a convenient constant. Then it turns out that 1 is even more convenient.
Thanks Clem. So in that sense, the fine structure constant is just one of several dimensionless numbers that could be produced by combining numbers lie e,h and so on?
LostConjugate
May24-10, 03:26 PM
Think of it as the value h per oscillation.
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