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Russell E. Rierson
Aug29-04, 06:33 AM
A general equation for Y > X :

X^p + p*M + [Y-X] = Y^p

3^3 + 3*12 + 1 = 4^3


3^3 + 3*32 + 2 = 5^3


3^3 + 3*62 + 3 = 6^3


3^3 + 3*104 + 4 = 7^3


3^3 + 3*160 + 5 = 8^3


3^3 + 3*232 + 6 = 9^3



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4^3 + 3*20 + 1 = 5^3


4^3 + 3*50 + 2 = 6^3


4^3 + 3*92 + 3 = 7^3


4^3 + 3*148 + 4 = 8^3


4^3 + 3*220 + 5 = 9^3



[...]

X^p + p*M + N = Y^p


It also works for p = 2,5,7, etc...?


3^2 + 2*3 + 1 = 4^2


3^2 + 2*7 + 2 = 5^2


3^2 + 2*12 + 3 = 6^2


3^2 + 2*18 + 4 = 7^2


[...]


4^5 + 5*420 + 1 = 5^5

4^5 + 5*1350 + 2 = 6^5

4^5 + 5*3156 + 3 = 7^5

[...]


X^p + p*M + [Y - X] = Y^p

Zurtex
Aug29-04, 01:39 PM
Correct me if I am wrong, but to prove that you need to show that for y > x that p is a factor of y^p - y - x^p + x. I don't know how to do that, but perhaps you do.

matt grime
Aug29-04, 02:05 PM
Don't you? You just pick examples where it's true and don't bother about the obvious fact it's false.

Zurtex
Aug29-04, 02:23 PM
Don't you? You just pick examples where it's true and don't bother about the obvious fact it's false.
Really? I've not got something on me where I can easily write a program to find a counter example but running a few million values through Excel I can't find one.

matt grime
Aug29-04, 02:25 PM
actually, i'm doing a slight disservice there, since fermat's little theorem gives you that it is always true. i got carried away with the fact it was something russell wrote and was probably either trivial or false. had i looked more closely i'd have realized it was the first of those. if he ever actually explained using words what he meant he might be clearer

Russell E. Rierson
Aug29-04, 07:02 PM
actually, i'm doing a slight disservice there, since fermat's little theorem gives you that it is always true. i got carried away with the fact it was something russell wrote and was probably either trivial or false. had i looked more closely i'd have realized it was the first of those. if he ever actually explained using words what he meant he might be clearer


X^p + p*M + [Y-X] = Y^p

Y^p - X^p = p*M + [Y-X]

p*M + [Y-X]

is not a "pth" power for p > 2

Zurtex
Aug29-04, 09:10 PM
X^p + p*M + [Y-X] = Y^p

Y^p - X^p = p*M + [Y-X]

p*M + [Y-X]

is not a "pth" power for p > 2
Eh? Matt said Fermat's little theorem not Fermat's last theorem.