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Farn
Jul24-03, 01:21 PM
If light is just an EM phenomena like radio waves (with more energy) would it be possible to build a transmitter that transmits in the light range? If you were to do this, would you see light that just seems to propagating from the antenna?

chroot
Jul24-03, 01:54 PM
If you could see in radio light, you'd look up at an antenna and see an odd fuzzy, pulsing light.

Radio waves do not behave like optical light however, due to their longer wavelength -- radio waves bend around things, diffract through large openings, and generally don't behave in the straight-line fashion you're used to light behaving in. It would be weird indeed to have radio eyes.

To answer your question, it is impossible to build a normal radio transmission antenna that can produce light frequencies. The technique of jiggling electrons in a wire (an antenna) becomes very inefficient in the microwave region. People use different technologies to generate each of microwaves, light, ultraviolet, x-ray, and gamma radiation. No one technology can produce them all. (Not yet, anyway.)

- Warren

arcnets
Jul24-03, 02:21 PM
Somewhere I read:
"The antenna for light is called an atom".

nbo10
Jul24-03, 02:55 PM
It's called a light bulb.

JMD

arcnets
Jul24-03, 03:01 PM
Nonono - radiation must be coherent from an antenna [:D]

Plus it must work 2-way. Ever seen a lightbulb convert light into electricity?

mmwave
Jul25-03, 01:08 AM
Originally posted by arcnets
Nonono - radiation must be coherent from an antenna [:D]

Plus it must work 2-way. Ever seen a lightbulb convert light into electricity?

Well no, but it can via the Photoelectric effect. The filament coil won't be as efficient as a large plate but it should work. But here's the interesting part - I think antennas are said to be reciprocal devices.

An antenna good for 1 meter wavelenght is good for both transmission and reception. The light bulb clearly won't be. Is this related to coherence as an assumption in a working antenna?

Guybrush Threepwood
Jul25-03, 04:17 AM
It's called a light bulb.

anybody heard of laser-diodes? The ones used in CD-players.....[a)]

arcnets
Jul25-03, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by mmwave
Is this related to coherence as an assumption in a working antenna? Yes. Antenna theory has to do with the Fourier-transform of the e.m. field. You can transform only pure (coherent) states, not mixed states.