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Tom McCurdy
Sep5-04, 12:05 AM
What do you guys think of swish
and
swishmax

against say flash mx

Tide
Sep5-04, 12:14 AM
I liked it enough to buy it - but, unfortunately, I haven't had much time to explore it beyond puttering around. Maybe soon!

Tom McCurdy
Sep5-04, 12:29 AM
I have used swish for a long timel. It is very easy to use, and very useful, however to swish users u can always tell the difference between it and flash mx. I was wondering if anyone has used mx to the point where they could tell about how long it takes to get good at.

on the minus side of swish... i had gotten to the point where i had almost maxed out the use of the program, but u can do a lot with plug ins, however because of ... the fashion i got swish... it doesn't seem to allow plug ins

Tom McCurdy
Sep5-04, 12:29 AM
i could post some links to some stuff i have made if anyone would like to see some swish examples.

amwbonfire
Sep5-04, 02:34 AM
I have used both (though now I only have Flash MX, I ditched swish.)

Swish is nice if you just want to knock up something quick, easy and simple. However, if you're looking to make rich-media applications, decent graphics or anything like that, don't ever try and use swish. It's simply to basic, and you'll need to search for plugins and things to do things flash could do with its hands tied behind its back.

Flash = Good. :approve:

Edit: I just reread your post and realised I missed a bit.

I've used flash for about 3 years now, since Flash 3 (I think... might have been flash 4...) I would say I'm very experienced with it, and I can do almost anything with it (as long as it doesn't involve really complex maths... I'm going to learn some of that at uni :smile: ). I've learnt it all by messing around, and I've only read one or two tutorials ever. Using that method, I've discovered a thousand and one things people would never find if they used tutorials... but it's taken a long time.

You'll probably (if you get flash) want to do some tutorials to learn it quick. You should have expert knowledge within about 4 months of learning. Try doing all the tutorials that come with it, and then going to www.flashkit.com, a handy site for everything flash.

:biggrin:

Tom McCurdy
Sep5-04, 11:44 AM
Could you link me to some some of the work you have done in both flash mx and swish

exequor
Sep5-04, 01:12 PM
swish is a very good program. i have swish and flash mx but i certainly know much more about swish. i don't do alot of work in either of them these days because flash is not really web standard and so i am trying to keep my websites universal.

amwbonfire
Sep6-04, 03:10 AM
I don't think I've kept anything I've made in swish, only one or two simple animations.

I've made A LOT of things in flash. I'd like to point you to my site, but I'm not so sure I should. At the moment I'm trying to change hosts (my old hosts are having problemts), and my site is in shambles. I've only got a half finished homepage up, and a game called The Playground 2. I guess you can look at that, though the version that's online has a lot of errors, and is no where near completed.

Here it is:
http://amwbonfire.com/playground

I could never, ever, EVER have even considered making this in swish.

Tom McCurdy
Sep7-04, 10:15 PM
OMG
did you really make that
if so you are my hero of the week

YOU MUST TEACH ME
lol
that is my favorite game of all time
(one of)
wow

Tom McCurdy
Sep7-04, 10:16 PM
How I still can't belive you made that

-no way u made that by yourself
wow

Tom McCurdy
Sep7-04, 10:17 PM
And your only 16
I must say I am very impressed
please forgive my earlier posts
I was not saying that i didn't belive you
but merely trying to compliment you on your work
again
wow

amwbonfire
Sep8-04, 02:57 AM
:biggrin: :rofl:

And now, to be mean, I should say I didn't make that at all.

(Just kidding, of course I made it.)

Anyway, I don't think I could teach you (it'd take a LONG time). I could, however, give you the source code files for it (do you have flash?) and you can have a look around it. You could then ask me any queries you have about any parts of it.

Thanks for the positive feedback. You're the only person who's ever said anything about it! :eek:

Andy Wells
AMW Bonfire

blue_raver22
Sep30-04, 11:02 PM
Well, swish is a lot easier to use if u dont have any background at all in flash... however, flash is capable of a hell of a lot more than swish... u can still make some pretty good effects in swish though but it may take some extra creativity by mixing and matching effects already present in swishmax... but if u have the time and patience, u might as well learn flash MX... its a lot better especially for morphing and other advanced effects...

Tom McCurdy
Sep30-04, 11:11 PM
yes I agree
one thing about swish
is that you can always tell when it is swish
it seems almost fake

blue_raver22
Oct4-04, 03:47 AM
more like a generic effect... unlike in flash mx wherein the effects are created with a bit more depth... gago ka