Solving Ferromagnet Ques: Get G_q(\omega) from (hbarw-h)G_ff'(\omega)

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The discussion revolves around deriving the expression for \( G_q(\omega) \) from a given equation involving \( G_{f,f'}(\omega) \) in the context of ferromagnetism. The participants are exploring concepts related to quantum mechanics and statistical mechanics, particularly in the realm of spin interactions.

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  • Participants express uncertainty about how to manipulate the given equations to isolate \( G_q(\omega) \). There are attempts to substitute known values and simplify terms, particularly focusing on the role of the constant \( h \) and the spin expectation values. Questions arise regarding the definition and implications of the interaction term \( I(f-g) \) and its significance in the derivation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their thoughts and attempting to clarify the role of various terms in the equations. Some have provided definitions and context for the interaction term, while others are seeking further guidance on the next steps in the derivation process.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of clarity regarding the definition of \( I(f-g) \), which is seen as a necessary component for progressing in the solution. Participants are also considering the implications of treating spin as independent of indices.

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Homework Statement


How from

[tex](\hbar\omega-h)G_{f,f'}(\omega)=i2\langle\hat{S}_f^z\rangle\delta_{f,f'}+\langle\hat{S}^z\rangle\sum_gI(f-g)\{G_{f,f'}(\omega)-G_{g,f'}(\omega)\}[/tex]

get

[tex]G_{q}(\omega)=\frac{i\hbar}{2\pi}\frac{2\langle\hat{S}^z\rangle}{\hbar\omega-h-\epsilon(q)}[/tex]

where

[tex]G_{f,f'}(\omega)=\frac{1}{N}\sum_{\vec{q}} e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{f}-\vec{f'})}G_{\vec{q}}(\omega)[/tex]

[tex]\delta_{f,f'}=\frac{1}{N}\sum_{q}e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{f}-\vec{f'})}[/tex]

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I really don't have a clue what to do. [tex]h[/tex] is constant.

If I use that spin don't depands of indices

[tex]\langle\hat{S}^z\rangle=\langle\hat{S}_g^z\rangle=S\sigma[/tex]

and use

[tex](\hbar\omega-h)\frac{1}{N}\sum_{\vec{q}} e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{f}-\vec{f'})}G_{\vec{q}}(\omega)=i2S\sigma\frac{1}{N}\sum_{q}e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{f}-\vec{f'})}+S\sigma\sum_gI(f-g)\{\frac{1}{N}\sum_{\vec{q}} e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{f}-\vec{f'})}G_{\vec{q}}(\omega)-\frac{1}{N}\sum_{\vec{q}} e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{g}-\vec{f'})}G_{\vec{q}}(\omega)\}[/tex]What now?
 
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Homework Statement


How from

[tex](\hbar\omega-h)G_{f,f'}(\omega)=i2\langle\hat{S}_f^z\rangle\delta_{f,f'}+\langle\hat{S}^z\rangle\sum_gI(f-g)\{G_{f,f'}(\omega)-G_{g,f'}(\omega)\}[/tex]

get

[tex]G_{q}(\omega)=\frac{i\hbar}{2\pi}\frac{2\langle\hat{S}^z\rangle}{\hbar\omega-h-\epsilon(q)}[/tex]

where

[tex]G_{f,f'}(\omega)=\frac{1}{N}\sum_{\vec{q}} e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{f}-\vec{f'})}G_{\vec{q}}(\omega)[/tex]

[tex]\delta_{f,f'}=\frac{1}{N}\sum_{q}e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{f}-\vec{f'})}[/tex]


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The Attempt at a Solution



I really don't have a clue what to do. [tex]h[/tex] is constant.

If I use that spin don't depands of indices

[tex]\langle\hat{S}^z\rangle=\langle\hat{S}_g^z\rangle=S\sigma[/tex]

and use

[tex](\hbar\omega-h)\frac{1}{N}\sum_{\vec{q}} e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{f}-\vec{f'})}G_{\vec{q}}(\omega)=i2S\sigma\frac{1}{N}\sum_{q}e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{f}-\vec{f'})}+S\sigma\sum_gI(f-g)\{\frac{1}{N}\sum_{\vec{q}} e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{f}-\vec{f'})}G_{\vec{q}}(\omega)-\frac{1}{N}\sum_{\vec{q}} e^{i\vec{q}(\vec{g}-\vec{f'})}G_{\vec{q}}(\omega)\}[/tex]


What now?


What is the definition of I(f-g) ? We need that to make any progress.
 
[tex]I[/tex] is exchange interraction!

[tex]\sum_f I(f)e^{-i\vec{g}\cdot\vec{f}}=J(\vec{q})[/tex]

[tex]\sum_g I(f-g)=\sum_{\vec{\lambda}}I(\vec{\lambda})=J(0)\equiv J_0[/tex]
 
Any idea?
 

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