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humanino
Sep12-04, 11:31 AM
Maybe 30% of the Internet consists in porn, to the great despair of Saint :tongue2: (where did he go ?) (not that I care)
Even people with respectable occupations such as us in PF must admit it : our most successful thread is the Member Photo one and we humans are fascinated by the physical shape. I was wondering why ? :confused: :uhh:
We won't get much by seeing each other, except maybe mental association : it is easier to remember pictorial information. But that can't explain the whole fascination here.
Do you have an opinion ?

Andy
Sep12-04, 01:05 PM
A pictures worth a thousand words.

Evo
Sep12-04, 01:10 PM
My first guess is that it's because PF members are all so good looking. :approve:

One of the first things that a baby becomes fascinated with are faces. Manufacturers of baby toys know this and use this in designing toys. Humans tend to seek out the companionship of others and for many people a great part of that is visual contact.

For me, it's nice to put a face to the person I am speaking with. It makes them more "human" and less of an unembodied "voice".

Adam
Sep12-04, 01:16 PM
We're predators, among other things. Forward-facing eyes, hands and arms built to apply force and manipulate things in front of those eyes.

enigma
Sep12-04, 01:19 PM
Humans are extremely social monkeys.

We've got a special place in our brain which does nothing except for recognize faces.

I saw a special on TV (discovery channel, I think) which had two guys with brain damage from accidents. One of them couldn't make the associations between shapes and objects... they showed him a picture of a hairbrush and he described it as a brown blob with a black blob on top of it. When they showed him pictures of people he knew exactly who they were. The other guy could recognize objects with no problem at all, but he couldn't discern people at all... he couldn't even recognize his own face.

It's a mildly scary thought what'll happen if and when we meet an alien race. They most likely won't be able to tell us apart.

Adam
Sep12-04, 01:24 PM
Unless they're smarter than the average ox.

Ivan Seeking
Sep12-04, 01:49 PM
Maybe 30% of the Internet consists in porn, to the great despair of Saint :tongue2: (where did he go ?) (not that I care)
Even people with respectable occupations such as us in PF must admit it : our most successful thread is the Member Photo one and we humans are fascinated by the physical shape. I was wondering why ? :confused: :uhh:
We won't get much by seeing each other, except maybe mental association : it is easier to remember pictorial information. But that can't explain the whole fascination here.
Do you have an opinion ?

I'm just guessing here but at the most primitive level, the more attracted one is to a potential mate, the more likely one is to reproduce. Anything that enhances this desire should yield an evolutionary advantage. So it seems to me that a "fascination with shape" is a highly evolved trait that helps to make babies. Also, beauty is often associated with symmetry and specific proportions that indicate health, and fertility. In fact, universally, men indicate that women having a waist to hip ratio of 0.7 are most attractive in form. The preferred measurements [size] can vary, but the ratios stay the same. Allegedly, this waist to hip ratio - 0.7 - also yields the greatest success rate for child birth.

Evo
Sep12-04, 01:53 PM
I've noticed that different people have very different ideas of what is attractive.

If a man is highly intelligent and posseses a great sense of humor, that is SO attractive to me. It actually affects how I perceive them. I have always regretted the few times that someone talked me into dating a guy because he was "good looking". Physical looks are at the bottom of my list in order of importance. Other women are always drooling over men that I consider unattractive. I just don't get it. It does seem that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

edit - I just read Ivan's post. I agree.

Ivan Seeking
Sep12-04, 02:05 PM
I should add that physicists prefer a waist to hip ratio of \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}

motai
Sep12-04, 02:50 PM
I've noticed that different people have very different ideas of what is attractive.

If a man is highly intelligent and posseses a great sense of humor, that is SO attractive to me. It actually affects how I perceive them. I have always regretted the few times that someone talked me into dating a guy because he was "good looking". Physical looks are at the bottom of my list in order of importance. Other women are always drooling over men that I consider unattractive. I just don't get it. It does seem that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I agree. There are lots of girls that I know who are pretty but leave much to be desired personality-wise. They tend to be shallow in selecting boyfriends and the relationships that I have seen develop seem to be lacking in depth, with the only emphasis being on physical attraction and nothing else.

Being with someone I can relate with is far more important to me than physical attractiveness. But it seems that the majority of people choose the latter as their primary way of selecting boyfriends/girlfriends.

Ivan Seeking
Sep12-04, 04:34 PM
Hormones

During the time of their cycles when most fertile, young single women tend to show more skin when going out on the town. Unless they have read about this, they don't realize why, they just do.

motia, I'm afraid your complaint should be sent to Darwin. The same for all of those "men are pigs" arguments, ladies.

You animals. :biggrin:

mee
Sep12-04, 04:45 PM
We're predators, among other things. Forward-facing eyes, hands and arms built to apply force and manipulate things in front of those eyes.

We had forward facing eyes long before we were predators if, I believe, australopithecus is one of our ancestors.

jimmy p
Sep12-04, 04:47 PM
I agree. There are lots of girls that I know who are pretty but leave much to be desired personality-wise. They tend to be shallow in selecting boyfriends and the relationships that I have seen develop seem to be lacking in depth, with the only emphasis being on physical attraction and nothing else.

Being with someone I can relate with is far more important to me than physical attractiveness. But it seems that the majority of people choose the latter as their primary way of selecting boyfriends/girlfriends.


The main problem is that you go for the pretty girls in the hope that they have a personality. At least, I would if I had the guts...

humanino
Sep12-04, 05:07 PM
The main problem is that you go for the pretty girls in the hope that they have a personality. At least, I would if I had the guts...
Still hope to find another available one... Stupid kid I was :grumpy: :mad:

Adam
Sep12-04, 10:39 PM
Australopithecus wasn't an omniovorous monster like us?

The_Professional
Sep12-04, 10:50 PM
If a man is highly intelligent and posseses a great sense of humor, that is SO attractive to me. It actually affects how I perceive them. I have always regretted the few times that someone talked me into dating a guy because he was "good looking". Physical looks are at the bottom of my list in order of importance.

What if he's smart, intelligent, funny and looks like Danny De Vito?

Evo
Sep12-04, 11:12 PM
What if he's smart, intelligent, funny and looks like Danny De Vito?I think Danny DeVito is cute. :smile:

amwbonfire
Sep12-04, 11:19 PM
I've noticed that different people have very different ideas of what is attractive.

If a man is highly intelligent and posseses a great sense of humor, that is SO attractive to me. It actually affects how I perceive them. I have always regretted the few times that someone talked me into dating a guy because he was "good looking". Physical looks are at the bottom of my list in order of importance. Other women are always drooling over men that I consider unattractive. I just don't get it. It does seem that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I too prefer personality to physical appearance. I find that if someone is beautiful inside, and I enjoy being with them, they'll be just as beautiful on the outside too.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I don't mean to take anything away from that saying, but it's just a nice way of saying some people have bad taste.

Only joking! :tongue2:

Gokul43201
Sep13-04, 12:42 AM
I should add that physicists prefer a waist to hip ratio of \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}


I thought it was about 0.618, or \frac {\sqrt{5} - 1} {2} .

Adam
Sep13-04, 02:33 AM
Physical appearance means nothing if they have a thoroughly objectionable personality. However, I'd be quite happy to find a girlfriend who is nice, intelligent, has great integrity, and is also incredibly beautiful. ;)

BoulderHead
Sep13-04, 09:46 PM
But that can't explain the whole fascination here.
Do you have an opinion ?
Yeah, but it's rated.

jimmy p
Sep14-04, 05:00 AM
beauty is in the eye of the beholder.




Too many times nowaday the case is "beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder"