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Alkatran
Sep17-04, 03:53 PM
I've been working with the Collatz series and noticed a pattern in the lengths. If you take the first occurence of a length, then find the first occurence of the next higher length after that, and continue... the steps will always be twice as large.
For example, from length 1 to length 2, the step is 1. From length 2 to length 3 the step is 2, and etc
I was just wondering what other patterns are known about it?
I'm current checking if the actual step in steps from length value to length value have some pattern...
Alkatran
Sep17-04, 03:55 PM
Ah, the steps increase linearly. This only stands for the first occurence of numbers, but the next value is always n higher, where n is the position of the length.
It's been shown that if you can show the value mod 2 = 0, that it MUST go to 1, right? (assuming that it is true, but not proven yet)
Since it divides to become a smaller number, and all numbers lower than the test number are proven... right?
(this wouldn't apply to numbers other than the initial value)
Alkatran
Sep17-04, 04:46 PM
How would I prove:
n is odd and greater than 4
2^x > n, 2^(x-1) < n
x is greater than 2 (as a consequence)
(n*3 + 1) mod (2^x) = (n mod (2^x)) - 1
Gokul43201
Sep17-04, 07:16 PM
This doesn't look right...
n=5, x=3
(15+1) mod 8 = 0 but (5 mod 8) - 1 = 4
But then I don't know anything about the Collatz Sequence (other than that Comp Geeks find it fun and it has something to do with numbers of the form 3n+1).
Alkatran
Sep18-04, 12:07 PM
This doesn't look right...
n=5, x=3
(15+1) mod 8 = 0 but (5 mod 8) - 1 = 4
But then I don't know anything about the Collatz Sequence (other than that Comp Geeks find it fun and it has something to do with numbers of the form 3n+1).
Change that -1 to a smaller than sign...
It was just one of those patterns you half see and need to check
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