Electron Bombardment: Safety Check for X-Rays?

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The discussion revolves around the safety concerns related to X-ray production during electron bombardment of materials such as wood and glass at varying voltages. Participants explore the conditions under which X-rays may be generated and the implications for safety when using different materials and voltages.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether firing electrons at 15 kV at wood or glass poses a danger of X-ray production, suggesting that this may only occur with harder metals.
  • Another participant notes that the binding energies of the K and L-shells of the elements in glass or wood could lead to characteristic X-rays, along with bremsstrahlung radiation, indicating that X-ray energies would likely be below 1 or 2 keV.
  • A participant inquires if reducing the voltage to 10 kV would eliminate the need for X-ray protection, suggesting that lower voltages might be safer.
  • There is a discussion about the potential for using different materials to slow down the electrons, with questions about whether wood or glass would be more effective.
  • One participant expresses interest in creating a beam of light through argon gas using electrons, referencing a Crookes tube design without a phosphorus coating.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the safety of X-ray production at different voltages and materials, with no consensus reached on the necessity of protection or the effectiveness of various materials in slowing electrons.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific energy levels and characteristics of X-rays related to the materials discussed, but the implications of these factors remain unresolved. The discussion includes assumptions about the relationship between voltage, material properties, and X-ray generation.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring the safety of electron bombardment in experimental setups, particularly in fields related to physics, engineering, and materials science.

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Hi
Lets say i had a vacuum and was fireing electrons at 15kv at a piece of wood or glass. Is there any danger of xrays from the electron bombardment or does this only occur when they hit hard metals?

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Nick
 
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Look at the binding energies of the K,L-shells of the constituent elements (atoms). Those will be the characteristics X-rays from glass or wood. There will be some brehmsstrahlung radiation.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/kxray.html

http://xdb.lbl.gov/Section1/Table_1-2.pdf
http://xdb.lbl.gov/Section1/Table_1-3.pdf
http://xdb.lbl.gov/Section1/Sec_1-8.pdf

It seems that X-rays would have energyies mostly less the 1 or 2 keV.

This is low X-ray or high UV. So do use protection.
 
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Thanks so much for you input.
Lets say i can get the voltage down to 10kv, it should fall in the realm of safe working without having to protect myself from xrays?
 
also is there any material that we could use to cause a slower decent rate of the electrons, eg wood, glass ?? which is better?
 
yipyap777 said:
Thanks so much for you input.
Lets say i can get the voltage down to 10kv, it should fall in the realm of safe working without having to protect myself from xrays?
The X-rays are characteristic of the transition levels of each element. Even at 10 kV, one would still get the same X-rays energies which are less than 10 kV, but there would be fewer of them.

also is there any material that we could use to cause a slower decent rate of the electrons, eg wood, glass ?? which is better?
What is it that one is trying to do?

Electrons are used for many different tasks, from diffraction, to electron microscopy, to welding, to . . . .
 
i would like to create a beam of light through argon gas using electrons. Similar to the crooks tube, but without the phosphorus coating on the side of the tube.

I have seen them built without the coating.. just using gas instead.
 
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