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Mabied738
Nov12-10, 01:03 AM
Powder pattern calculation from single crystal data
Hi
Kindly, I wanna know what the theoretical base of X-ray powder diffraction pattern calculation from single crystal data? and is the obtained pattern same as experimental powder pattern and if not same what the cause of difference? Thanks
Powder data are simply a projection of all single crystal data onto 1D x-axis, i.e. for each (hkl) you take the absolute Q(hkl) and put the respective intensity on the 1D axis at the point x=Q.
Mabied738
Nov18-10, 06:03 PM
Powder data are simply a projection of all single crystal data onto 1D x-axis, i.e. for each (hkl) you take the absolute Q(hkl) and put the respective intensity on the 1D axis at the point x=Q.
Thanks alot for your answer, can you suggest textbook or paper to read about the theory and mathematical method which describe how the software convert single crystal diffraction data to powder pattern, i.e. 2Theta versus Intensity plot.
Best Regards
Mabied738
Nov18-10, 06:04 PM
Thanks
Thanks alot for your answer, can you suggest textbook or paper to read about the theory and mathematical method which describe how the software convert single crystal diffraction data to powder pattern, i.e. 2Theta versus Intensity plot.
Best Regards
Well there are so many books on crystallography. Probably one of the best is by Vainshtein:
http://books.google.ch/books?id=xjIGV_hPiysC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Structure+of+Crystals:+Modern+Crystallography,&source=bl&ots=BdvbjE2Q1y&sig=7DQhl6Jc-1jxHYB2_VJjqxWOyq8&hl=en&ei=Y0jmTITHF87AswaP5_S0Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CDYQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Structure%20of%20Crystals%3A%20Modern%20Crystall ography%2C&f=false
There is a lot of software for this. You can Google "powdercell", or www.oxfordcryosystems.com for a free copy of Crystallographica, or
"fullprof suite" or "gsas".
Mabied738
Nov19-10, 05:17 AM
Well there are so many books on crystallography. Probably one of the best is by Vainshtein:
http://books.google.ch/books?id=xjIGV_hPiysC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Structure+of+Crystals:+Modern+Crystallography,&source=bl&ots=BdvbjE2Q1y&sig=7DQhl6Jc-1jxHYB2_VJjqxWOyq8&hl=en&ei=Y0jmTITHF87AswaP5_S0Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CDYQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Structure%20of%20Crystals%3A%20Modern%20Crystall ography%2C&f=false
There is a lot of software for this. You can Google "powdercell", or www.oxfordcryosystems.com for a free copy of Crystallographica, or
"fullprof suite" or "gsas".
Thanks for sending these nice books and software, but there is specific theoretical method deal with converting single crystal data to powder pattern plot, and I didn't found it in the general crystallography text books, as by Vainshtein, so do you know where I can found it and what is the keywords for it?
Thanks and sorry for confusion again
Thanks for sending these nice books and software, but there is specific theoretical method deal with converting single crystal data to powder pattern plot, and I didn't found it in the general crystallography text books, as by Vainshtein, so do you know where I can found it and what is the keywords for it?
Thanks and sorry for confusion again
This type of plot is possible in 'Winplotr' (from FullProf). Actually in general the powder pattern will depend on the geometry of XRD experiment. In short, you should use your .hkl-file with intensities and ask Fullprof to calculate the diffracton _powder_ pattern for your powder resolution parameters that are also specified in the input file in Le Bail (powder matching) mode. To make a really true conversion one needs a collection of reflections within Ewald sphere (symmetric in 4pi).
A big difference in powder (PD) and SC (SCD) diffraction experiment is that in the PD you have a profile I(2\theta), whereas in SCD you have already integrated peaks.
The conversion of just integrated intensities is extremely straightforward. For each reflection you calculate \theta and add the intensity to I(2\theta). You should allow some tolerance in 2\theta, because you are dealing with experimental data having some errorbars. There is also correction for Lorenz factor (LF). If your original SCD data were already corrected for LF, then you multiply I(2\theta) by 1/[sin(\theta)*sin(2\theta)]. We assume some standard Bragg-Brentano PD. This way you will get the integrated intensities, but not the profile, which is dependent on the resolution parameters.
gomathy
Nov23-10, 07:06 AM
can anyone you tell me how to get the miller indices and cell parameters from powder XRD pattern
can anyone you tell me how to get the miller indices and cell parameters from powder XRD pattern
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gomathy
Nov24-10, 06:42 PM
thank you can you suggest any formula for calculating the cell parameters with 'd' and 2theata
gomathy
Nov24-10, 06:59 PM
hai
can you suggest the formula for finding the miller indices from powder xrd pattern with d and 2 theta values.
Best regards
Gokul43201
Nov25-10, 12:43 AM
Can you figure it out? Start with a cubic system. How are the miller indices for a family of planes in a cubic lattice related to the d-spacing for those planes?
Also, next time, start a new thread if you have a question that is different from the one being discussed in the existing thread.
hassanxf
Feb5-11, 06:06 PM
can you help me in solve collected data from xrd pattern by using manual search?
Can anyone help me in processing the single crystal x-ray data. I have a full data including all frames, p4p files etc. I am unable to process it. Plz help
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