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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the suitability and reviews of two books: "Dissapearing Cryptography S2- Information Hiding: Steganography and Watermarking" by Peter Wayner and "Linear Time Invariant Systems" by Martin Schetzen. Participants express their experiences and opinions related to cryptography and system engineering.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the relevance of steganography to modern cryptography, citing historical examples and suggesting that the techniques discussed may not be applicable to current practices.
  • Another participant recommends "Applied Cryptography" by Bruce Schneier as a valuable resource for those studying cryptography, especially for beginners.
  • A different participant mentions a free book titled "McDonald Among Us," suggesting it as an alternative resource, although the description is somewhat unclear.
  • Several participants repeat the request for reviews or advice regarding the two specific books mentioned, indicating a lack of direct responses to the original inquiry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the value or relevance of the books in question. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the importance of steganography and the recommendations for alternative resources.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the appropriateness of the recommended books for their studies, indicating a potential gap in understanding the relationship between the topics of cryptography and system engineering.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals studying cryptography, system engineering, or those seeking book recommendations in these fields may find this discussion relevant.

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I was advised to buy "Dissapearing Cryptography S2- Information Hiding:Steganography and Watermarking" by Peter Wayner and "Linear Time Invariant Systems" by Martin Schetzen. I am clueless as to whether they are good for me or not, I am studying about Cryptography and System Engineering...Anyone here has any reviews or advice for me about these two books ? Please post help me. Thanks a lot

Tu Thanh
 
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I don't see how steganography is relevant to modern cryptography. You see from the title what it's about; disappearing inks and other techniques for hiding messages from sight. The old greek who shaved his slave's head and wrote a message on the guy's scalp, then let the hair grow back and sent the man to his friend, who knew to shave the head to read the message. Not exactly real-time, but it gives the idea. Not an algorithm in the bunch.
 
TuThanh said:
I am studying about Cryptography and System Engineering...Anyone here has any reviews or advice for me about these two books ? Please post help me. Thanks a lot
Tu Thanh
I haven't heard of the book you mentioned but something I can recommend is Applied Cryptography by Bruce Schneier; a cryptologist who clearly has a passion for the topic.

If you're a total beginner then Cryptography for Dummies.

Search amazon or google as well.
 
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TuThanh said:
I was advised to buy "Dissapearing Cryptography S2- Information Hiding:Steganography and Watermarking" by Peter Wayner and "Linear Time Invariant Systems" by Martin Schetzen. I am clueless as to whether they are good for me or not, I am studying about Cryptography and System Engineering...Anyone here has any reviews or advice for me about these two books ? Please post help me. Thanks a lot

Tu Thanh
you shouldnt't worried about that and about the old greek donkey too.
another book i used to read is also about cryptie, its free for download it is is called mcdonald among us becauase it is not a good OLD ass book, so we call it is mcdonald.
 
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