Calculating Power Delivered by Battery in RC Circuit

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The discussion revolves around calculating the power delivered by a battery in a simple RC circuit. Participants are exploring the relationship between current, charge on the capacitor, and power in the context of this circuit configuration.

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  • Participants discuss the proper method to calculate power in an RC circuit, questioning how current and charge relate to power delivery. Some express confusion over the implications of their previous calculations on the final power result.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculations, but there remains uncertainty about the correctness of the results based on the homework service's feedback.

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Participants note specific values for the capacitor, current, charge, and battery voltage, while also addressing the significance of significant figures and the requirements of the online homework service. There is a mention of the difference between instantaneous power and average power in the context of transient phenomena.

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trying to find the power delivered by a battery in a simple rc circuit.

what is the proper way to go about doing this?

i have caculated the current at the given time, and the charge on the capacitor at the given time... how do these tie into the power delivered?
 
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In a DC circuit, power delivered to a load at any given time is just the voltage across that load times the current through that load.

- Warren
 
wouldnt power delivered be different in an RC circuit?

this is a 3 part problem. in the first two parts i had to find the charge on the capacitor and the current through the resistor of this simple RC circuit (simple as in, 1 loop, 1 resistor, 1 power source, 1 cap). i asked about the current and charge on the capacitor bc in the 3rd part (which is asking what the power delivered by the battery is) it makes a point of saying:

"At 1.76 s the current in the resistor is I (from Part 2) and the charge on the capacitor is q (from Part 1)."

so that confused me.
 
Power delivered is as I said in my previous post; the "load" is the combination of the R and C together. The ideal cap can be assumed to not dissipate any power (its impedance is purely reactive), so all the power is dissipated by the resistor. All you need is the current through the resistor, and the voltage across the resistor. (The voltage at one end is the battery voltage. The voltage at the other is V = q/C.)

- Warren
 
ok. i understand that. perhaps you can look at my work and tell me if I am doing something wrong?

The capactitor is 1.5 x 10^-6 Fs.

I(t) = 2.23142119 x 10^-6 A
q(t) = 4.77389 x 10^-6 C

these quantities are correct.

The voltage from the battery is 10.1 Vs... and at the other end of the resistor is V = q/C = (4.77389 x 10^-6)/(1.5 x 10^-6) = 3.1825933 V

so the voltage drop across the resistory is 6.9174066 Vs.

So power = VI = (6.9174066)(2.23142119 x 10^-6) = 1.54356 x 10^-5 Ws. I am supposed to answer in units of micro-watts, so power = 15.4356 microWs...

am i doing something wrong? bc this answer is not being counted correctly by my homework service.
 
I suspect you are simply using too many significant figures. Your methodology looks correct. Try submitting 15 uW.

- Warren
 
the online homework service requires a number of decimal places so i don't think that's it... that looks right to me too... i wonder what I am doing wrong.
 
chroot said:
The ideal cap can be assumed to not dissipate any power (its impedance is purely reactive), so all the power is dissipated by the resistor.

- Warren

Warren, James,

This is true for alternating currents, and for the time average of the power. Here we have a transient phenomenon and instantaneous power. The energy of the source is used not only for dissipation in the resistor, but also to built up the electric field in the capacitor. The energy of the capacitor is

[tex]E_C=\frac{q^2}{2C}[/tex].

The "charging power" is

[tex]dW/dt = dE/dt = \frac{qI}{C}[/tex],

as I=dq/dt.

That has to be added to the power obtained for the resistor. But q/C=Uc, so the power of the source is Uc* I + Ur *I = Us * I.

In general, the power at time t delivered by a source is [tex]P(t)= U_s(t)*I_s(t)[/tex].

James,
The unit of power is W not Ws as you wrote. Ws is unit of energy or work, it is equal to Joule.

ehild
 

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