Need Help Solving Physics Problem: Particle Moving on Frictionless Table

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a particle moving on a frictionless table, connected to a massless string. The original poster describes the scenario where the particle is initially moving in a circular path and the string is pulled to change the radius of the motion. The problem includes questions about the particle's angular velocity after the string is pulled and the work done in the process.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use conservation of angular momentum to find the new angular velocity and seeks clarification on setting up the integral for work done. Some participants suggest considering the tension in the string and the forces involved in pulling the mass in.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the problem, with some providing insights into the work-energy theorem and the relationship between tension and the forces required to pull the mass. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the setup for calculating work, and while one participant expresses confidence in their calculations, no explicit consensus is reached.

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The problem involves assumptions about the particle's motion and the nature of the forces acting on it, particularly in the context of pulling the string slowly to maintain a circular path. The original poster's approach to integrating force over distance is under discussion, with some uncertainty about the correctness of the derived expressions.

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hi, I am having a little trouble with the last part of this problem.

A particle of mass m is moving on a frictionless horizontal table and is attached to a massless string, whose other end passes through a hole in the table, where i am holding it. Initially the particle is moving in a circle of radius R_0 with angular velocity w_0, but i now pull the string down through the hole until length R remains between the whole and the particle. (a) what's the particles angular velocity now? (b) assuming that I pull the string slowly that we can approximate the particles path by a circle of slowly shrinking radius, calculate the work i did pulling the string.

i was able to get part a by using conservation of angular momentum and i got

w= (R_0/R)^2*w_0

for part b i know that to find the work done i need to take the integral of F.dr, but i and not really sure how i would set that up.


thanks
 
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If you know the work energy theorem, there's an easy answer.

Otherwise:
What is the tension in the string when the mass is at radius [tex]r_i[/tex]?
What force do you need to pull at to pull the mass in?
 
ok I got the tension to be
(m*v^2)/r_0 = m*r_0*w_0^2 = F

so the i took the intagral of (F*dr) evaluated at r_0 to r and got (1/2)*m*w_0^2(r^2 - r_0^2)

is this right? because change in KE = work and for change in KE i get

(1/2)*m[ (r*w)^2 - (r_0 *w_0) ^2] , which is close to the formula i was expecting to get.
 
Looks good to me.
 

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