Giant Molecules: What's the Largest Known Molecule?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the largest known molecule, with participants exploring definitions and examples of macromolecular structures, including DNA, diamonds, and other forms of carbon. The scope includes theoretical considerations and definitions related to molecular size and structure.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that DNA is a candidate for the largest known molecule due to its composition of millions of atoms.
  • Others argue that diamonds and certain forms of carbon, classified as macromolecular structures, may also qualify as large molecules.
  • One participant questions whether all crystals can be considered macromolecular structures, leading to a disagreement on this classification.
  • Another participant clarifies that while covalently bonded molecules like diamonds and graphite are large, they may not fit the strict definition of a molecule, particularly when considering the nature of bonding in crystals.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of including ionic bonds, suggesting that salts can form very large structures, complicating the definition of what constitutes a molecule.
  • Concerns are raised about the definitions of molecules, with references to dictionary definitions that may exclude large structures like diamonds from being classified as molecules.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on what constitutes the largest known molecule, with multiple competing views on definitions and examples remaining unresolved.

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Limitations include varying definitions of what constitutes a molecule, the role of different types of bonding (covalent vs. ionic), and the implications of size and structure in classifying large entities like diamonds and crystals.

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Which is the known molecule that is composed by the major number of atoms? DNA? I know that DNA is made of million of atoms
 
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Originally posted by meteor
Which is the known molecule that is composed by the major number of atoms? DNA? I know that DNA is made of million of atoms

If you mean the biggest, diamonds are really just real big molecules - called macromolecular. I think a few other forms of carbon may qualify as well.
 
I am thinking that all crystals qualify as macromolecular structures. Does anyone know if this is correct?
 
Yes, I know, and, no, it is incorrect.
 
Ivan, I think the implications were covalently bonded molecules. I can get a crystal of sugar, but the sugar molecules are relatively small, compared to diamonds or graphite, and not bound to each other with much more than van der Waal forces. If you include ionic bonds, then the sky is the limit, since salts can form gigantic crystals. Metals form another interesting question in terms of if they are or aren't molecules, since most have an outer electron or so that are, sort of, community property.

Even diamonds and graphite don't really fall into the book definition of molecule (and be considered largest).

With a definition of:
compliments of Miriam-Websters online Dictionary
the smallest particle of a substance that retains all the properties of the substance and is composed of one or more atoms.

Then a large diamond wouldn't be considered a molecule.
 
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Originally posted by radagast
Ivan, I think the implications were covalently bonded molecules. I can get a crystal of sugar, but the sugar molecules are relatively small, compared to diamonds or graphite, and not bound to each other with much more than van der Waal forces. If you include ionic bonds, then the sky is the limit, since salts can form gigantic crystals. Metals form another interesting question in terms of if they are or aren't molecules, since most have an outer electron or so that are, sort of, community property.

Even diamonds and graphite don't really fall into the book definition of molecule (and be considered largest).

With a definition of:


Then a large diamond wouldn't be considered a molecule.

I know I've seen another definition in college but I can't find it in the old class book. Good enough.:smile:
 

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