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xlalcciax
Apr18-11, 08:26 AM
How to prove that set of real numbers is unbounded?
micromass
Apr18-11, 08:54 AM
What is your definition of unbounded?
How to prove that set of real numbers is unbounded?
It most likely involves showing that the cardinality of the real numbers exceeds ℵ ("aleph null").
Fredrik
Apr18-11, 11:35 AM
It most likely involves showing that the cardinality of the real numbers exceeds ℵ ("aleph null").
That would be "uncountable". "Unbounded" has a bunch of different but equivalent definitions, like "is not a subset of some open ball".
True. I figured that you would have to go about it the same type of way. Do you have to establish that a set without bound has no limit? Regardless, I'd be interested to see the proof when xlalcciax figures it out.
Fredrik
Apr18-11, 06:11 PM
It's much easier to prove that ℝ is unbounded than to prove that ℝ is uncountable. Once you've written down a definition of "bounded" and thought about what it means, you're pretty much done.
HallsofIvy
Apr18-11, 07:10 PM
I wish xlalcciax would get back to us with his definition of "bounded" so we would know in which direction to go.
You could be really lazy and just say that the real numbers can be proven to be uncountable by means of Georg Cantors diagonalization process.. lol.
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