What else Albert Einstein's contributions in optic and photonics?

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The discussion centers on Albert Einstein's contributions to optics and photonics, exploring various aspects of his work beyond the photoelectric effect. Participants examine concepts such as quantized energy, the speed of light, and Einstein's relations for emission and absorption processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the photoelectric effect as a significant contribution but seeks additional examples related to photonics.
  • Another participant mentions quantized energy as a relevant topic, prompting further discussion on its origins.
  • Several contributions reference Einstein's relations for spontaneous emission, stimulated emission, and absorption, highlighting their importance in laser theory.
  • There is a claim that stating the speed of light in vacuum as a constant is an important contribution, though this is contested regarding its historical context and acceptance at the time of Einstein's formulation of relativity.
  • A participant argues that while Planck introduced quantized energy, Einstein's work advanced the concept by relating it to electromagnetic radiation.
  • Another participant clarifies that the constancy of the speed of light was not widely accepted at the time Einstein proposed it, citing historical skepticism among physicists.
  • Discussion includes references to Einstein's 1910 paper on opalescence in liquids, suggesting additional contributions to the field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the origins and implications of quantized energy, the significance of the speed of light as a constant, and the historical context of these ideas. No consensus is reached regarding the extent of Einstein's contributions beyond the photoelectric effect.

Contextual Notes

Some claims depend on historical interpretations and the evolution of scientific thought, with unresolved questions about the acceptance of certain principles at the time of Einstein's work.

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I only found "photoelectric" as his important contribution in optic
anybody know what else related to photonics?



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quantanised energy?
 
Einstein's relation for spontaneous emission, stimulated emission and absorption?
 
It's perhaps idiotic, but I do think it is an important contribution to optics to state that the speed of light in vacuum is a constant..:wink:
 
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expscv said:
quantanised energy?
That is due to Planck.
 
arildno said:
It's perhaps idiotic, but I do think it is an important contribution to optics to state that the speed of light in vacuum is a constant..:wink:
Thank this one to Maxwell, Einstein was able to make it a postulate of Relativity because it was a well known property.
 
thank you all :)
 
Re: quantised energy being due to Planck.
I'm not so sure about that. I want to say yes and no. Planck employed quantised energy in his equation but it was Einstein that put forward the radical idea of quantising the elecromagnetic radiation field comparing it to a gas. The notion of a light particle or 'light complex' also appears in section eight of Einstein's paper on the electrodynamics of moving bodies. Planck thought the quantisation was more something to do with the interaction of the radiation with the matter of the walls of the blackbody and wasn't keen about Einstein's idea.
 
Albert Einstein, Ann. Phys. (Leipzig) 33, 1275 (1910); english translation: "Theory of Opalescence of Homogeneous Liquids and Mixtures of Liquids in the Vicinity of the Critical State", in Colloid Chemistry, J. Alexander, ed. (Rheinhold, New York, 1913), Vol. I, p. 323.
 
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My professor explained that Planck was forced to make the (at the time seemingly random and non-sensical) assumption that energy was quantised in order to solve a problem in blackbody radiation, but that Einstein was the first to begin to make sense of the result. Quantum Mechanics was then further developed/fleshed out by buys like Bohr, Heisenberg, Fermi, Dirac, Pauli etc.
 
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Integral said:
Thank this one to Maxwell, Einstein was able to make it a postulate of Relativity because it was a well known property.

Actually, the constancy of the speed of light wasn't a well known property at the time Einstein formulated SR. At the time, it was an educated guess based on some indirect experimental evidence such as the Michelson Morley experiment. It by no means was a well known property and at the time many physicists did not believe it to be true.
 
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explaining the photoelectrical effect
 
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OldTee said:
Einstein's relation for spontaneous emission, stimulated emission and absorption?

This is the most relevant of Einstein's work in terms of photonics because the Einstein A and B coefficients form the foundation of laser theory.

Claude.
 

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