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bruno67
May22-11, 06:08 AM
I am trying to calculate the following integral
I=\int_0^\infty\frac{x}{(x+ia)^2} {\mbox{$_2$F$_1\!$}}\left(\frac{1}{2},b,\frac{3}{2 },-\frac{x^2}{c^2}\right) dx.
I tried several different ways but drew a complete blank. Is there a way of converting this nasty hypergeometric function into something which is more tractable? Unfortunately the definition of the hypergeometric function as a series cannot be used, since it is only valid when the fourth argument is less than 1 in modulus.
Thanks.
3.1415926535
May22-11, 07:52 AM
Question: Why does x need to be less than 1? If it is more than 1, then the series diverges?
bruno67
May22-11, 09:20 AM
Question: Why does x need to be less than 1? If it is more than 1, then the series diverges?
Yes, if the fourth argument is equal to 1 or larger, the series diverges. In that case, the hypergeometric function can be defined by analytic continuation.
3.1415926535
May22-11, 10:11 AM
If there is no way to write the Hypergeometric function as a series(for any x), then I don't see how you can transform it something else to integrate it. Sorry
Here is everything about the Hypergeometric function of the 1st kind
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/HypergeometricFunction.html
I hope you find it usefull.
One last thing: The Hypergeometric functions are used to solve ODEs with variable coefficients. If you can construct the ODE and solve it using Frobenius series, then is there any possibilty that the series you will find will converge for every x?
JJacquelin
May22-11, 12:43 PM
Hi !
Sorry, I cannot read what you have written.
Is it possible to display your integral on another way ?
Look at what I see :
3.1415926535
May22-11, 12:49 PM
Hi !
Sorry, I cannot read what you have written.
Is it possible to display your integral on another way ?
Look at what I see :
\begin{array}\\I=\int_0^\infty\frac{x}{(x+ia)^2} {\mbox{$_2$F$_1\!$}}\left(\frac{1}{2},b,\frac{3}{2 },-\frac{x^2}{c^2}\right) \end{array}
Better now?
If it is the same, copy the LaTex code and paste it here
http://www.codecogs.com/latex/eqneditor.php
fluidistic
May22-11, 02:08 PM
Hi !
Sorry, I cannot read what you have written.
Is it possible to display your integral on another way ?
Look at what I see :
Right click on what you see and select "reload" or something like that, depending upon your internet browser. It's supposed to be an image and it hasn't loaded in your case.
bruno67
May22-11, 02:25 PM
Hi !
Sorry, I cannot read what you have written.
Is it possible to display your integral on another way ?
Look at what I see :
Here is the TeX source:
$I=\int_0^\infty\frac{x}{(x+ia)^2} {\mbox{$_2$F$_1\!$}}\left(\frac{1}{2},b,\frac{3}{2 },-\frac{x^2}{c^2}\right) dx.$
You can also visualize it by clicking "Quote" at the end of a message.
JJacquelin
May22-11, 02:26 PM
I realize that LATEX no longer works for all the Physics Forums.
It is impossible for me to read the questions which include formulas.
Sorry, until the problem be solved, this draw me to quit the Physics Forums.
Bye-bye !
fluidistic
May22-11, 02:33 PM
I realize that LATEX no longer works for all the Physics Forums.
It is impossible for me to read the questions which include formulas.
Sorry, until the problem be solved, this draw me to quit the Physics Forums.
Bye-bye !
Latex works for me. :/
JJacquelin
May23-11, 03:27 AM
First, I would like thank 3.1415926535 , fluidistic and bruno67 for their advices. But I didn't succeed to make LATEX work again.
What is stange is that old topics, where LATEX was correctly working, are now illegible.
The trouble is with Physics Forums only. Other sites and forums with LATEX are properly working.
Well, fluidistic gave the image .jpg of the integral. This enable me to answer :
In the particular case, the hypergeometric function reduces to Incomplete Beta Function, wich is a function of lower level (in attachment)
But, even on the form of Incomplete Beta, the whole integal seems very difficult to be analytically solved.
Fredrik
May23-11, 01:43 PM
JJacquelin, check out this thread (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=3318067), in particular post #165.
JJacquelin
May23-11, 02:21 PM
JJacquelin, check out this thread, in particular post #165.
Thank you for your help. I made the test. The result is that Javasript is correct. That is not surprising anyways since their is no problem with other forums than Physics Forums.
Fredrik
May23-11, 03:45 PM
OK, then I don't know what to do. Perhaps try another browser? You might want to keep an eye on that thread. Someone might post a solution there. You could also try posting more details about your problem there.
JJacquelin
May24-11, 12:21 PM
OK, then I don't know what to do. Perhaps try another browser? You might want to keep an eye on that thread. Someone might post a solution there. You could also try posting more details about your problem there.
I kept an eye on that thread and on some other threads. To my surprise I just see that LATEX is working again !!! and yet I did nothing...
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