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Sorry if this has been posted already. Its a Canadian led study!
"Antimatter atoms have been held captive and kept in existence for a whopping 16 minutes by a Canadian-led team — far longer than the researchers thought possible.
"It was quite a surprise," said Makoto Fujiwara, lead author of a study published Sunday in Nature Physics. It reported trapping antiatoms of antihydrogen — the antimatter counterpart of a hydrogen atom — for 1,000 seconds.
The achievement has extended the experimental lifetime of antihydrogen atoms 5,000-fold since the ALPHA experiment — an international collaboration Fujiwara is part of — first figured out how to trap them at all.
The team, based at the laboratory of CERN, the European organization for nuclear research, near Geneva, published its method in Nature last November. At the time, it reported that it had held onto the antiatoms for less than one-fifth of a second.
Holding antiatoms captive for several minutes opens up a new range of possible experiments to probe the nature of antimatter, said Fujiwara, a research scientist at Vancouver-based TRIUMF and an adjunct professor at the University of Calgary."
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/antimatter-atoms-trapped-16-minutes-154706752.html
Pengwuino
Jun8-11, 12:25 AM
So....... does anti-matter fall up? :biggrin:
So....... does anti-matter fall up? :biggrin:
:smile: that's my guess too, based on the fact that it creates its own anti-gravity.
TurtleMeister
Jun9-11, 08:31 PM
So....... does anti-matter fall up? :biggrin:
:smile: that's my guess too, based on the fact that it creates its own anti-gravity.
I don't think so. Even if it creates an anti gravity field, it will still be just as undetectable as a normal hydrogen atoms gravity field.
Pengwuino
Jun9-11, 08:36 PM
I don't think so. Even if it creates an anti gravity field, it will still be just as undetectable as a normal hydrogen atoms gravity field.
We're being sarcastic ;)
TurtleMeister
Jun9-11, 08:46 PM
We're being sarcastic ;)
Oh, I guess I should pay more attention to emoticons.
Drakkith
Jun9-11, 09:46 PM
We're being sarcastic ;)
I was unsure for a minute there myself lol. Text doesn't convey the verbal/non verbal cues that normal conversation does and is easily confused!
sophiecentaur
Jun10-11, 07:19 AM
There's less 'antiness' to antimatter than the name might suggest. What a let down.
SPMerkk
Jun10-11, 07:52 AM
Maybe 'Bizarro-Matter' might be more suitable? Not so much anti-, just a bit off.
Drakkith
Jun10-11, 08:05 AM
Maybe 'Bizarro-Matter' might be more suitable? Not so much anti-, just a bit off.
How about matters jerk of a twin brother?
mayeraus41
Jun10-11, 09:16 AM
There's less 'antiness' to antimatter than the name might suggest. What a let down.
Yeah, just a big explosion. How american film cliche.
How about matters jerk of a twin brother?
You guys are killing me!:rofl:
But apparently this is a(n) hell of an achievement. The last time the evil twin brother stayed for any length of time it was like 5 seconds.
Is this going to be a reproducible experiment? Or are anti-matter hydrogen atoms as unpredictable as Marlon Brando on a motercycle?
sophiecentaur
Jun11-11, 05:14 PM
What containment method is used? It must be a problem where the particles are neutrally charged. The only way I could think of would be to ensure that they all turn up 'stationary' after they have been produced and stay in the middle of the experiment for a reasonable length of time,
Vanadium 50
Jun11-11, 06:49 PM
It's a magnetic trap.
Also, I hate to break the news, but the spokesperson is not Canadian. He's Danish.
Antiphon
Jun11-11, 07:06 PM
Let's use it to fuel our cars. One tank should last a few thousand lifetimes.
Pengwuino
Jun11-11, 07:44 PM
One tank should last a few thousand lifetimes.
Or 16 minutes.
Followed by your car exploding!
Followed by your car exploding!
and falling upward.
It's a magnetic trap.
Also, I hate to break the news, but the spokesperson is not Canadian. He's Danish.
"It was quite a surprise," said Makoto Fujiwara, lead author of a study p
ublished Sunday in Nature Physics.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/antimatter-...154706752.html
I suppose you didn't know that Makoto Fujiwara is a good Canadian family name. The family homesteaded during the 2nd world war in containment camps while all their worldly possessions were stolen by the govt.
Just south of the boarder, in Yakima Wa., the same thing took place with the Japanese there and they turned this sour situation into beet farms generating sugar for the outstanding US troops over seas.
Astronuc
Jun11-11, 09:01 PM
A relevant story - Future is bright for CERN antimatter physicists
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46216
sophiecentaur
Jun12-11, 04:06 AM
It's a magnetic trap.
Also, I hate to break the news, but the spokesperson is not Canadian. He's Danish.
If the atoms are 'atoms' and neutral, how does a magnetic trap function? I can see how you could trap ions but antiHydrogen ions would 'just' be antiprotons and that wouldn't be such a big deal.
And there's nothing wrong with Danes, in their right place. And a lab could well be the right place. Bohr did quite well, after all.
Vanadium 50
Jun12-11, 06:27 AM
If the atoms are 'atoms' and neutral, how does a magnetic trap function?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_trap
sophiecentaur
Jun12-11, 11:43 AM
I thank you.
Redbelly98
Jun12-11, 01:58 PM
If the atoms are 'atoms' and neutral, how does a magnetic trap function?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_trap
See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto-optical_trap . I'm about 15 years removed from working in laser cooling, but it was the case back then that MOT's were a common way to trap neutral atoms.
I remember hearing about trapped antiprotons around 1990, it's good to see the work has progressed to antihydrogen.
sophiecentaur
Jun12-11, 02:06 PM
That's even better. Thanks for that too.
I must say, I had never really though how laser cooling could work but that wiki article makes perfect sense.
Creator
Jun12-11, 10:42 PM
So....... does anti-matter fall up? :biggrin:
Even though it is tongue in cheek, its still a good question; I don't think anti-matter has yet been experimentally shown to fall in a particular direction in a g field. Long lived neutral anti-hydrogen may solve some of the experimental dilemas that have thwarted its measurement.
I'm sure I may be opening up a can of speculation here.:smile:
Creator
mixinman7
Jun13-11, 01:05 AM
If anti-matter fell down with the same weight normal matter would, what would that mean? If it fell up, I'd assume that tickles the super-symmetry theory.
sophiecentaur
Jun13-11, 02:33 AM
@creator
Your post seems to suggest the possibility of negative mass??
Redbelly98
Jun13-11, 06:56 AM
Experimental verification that antimatter falls downward would be a good thing to have done, if only to stop speculation that it doesn't.
Experimental verification that antimatter falls downward would be a good thing to have done, if only to stop speculation that it doesn't.
Better get to work on that one!
sophiecentaur
Jun14-11, 03:05 AM
My antipen just floated up to the ceiling. Could that be used as a source of motive power, I wonder? (It disappeared in a flash when it got there, unfortunately - I am now scanning my insurance policy)
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