Minimal Polynomials & Diagonalization: P_2(\mathbb{C}) & M_{k x k}(\mathbb{R})

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The discussion revolves around the minimal polynomials and diagonalization of linear operators on polynomial spaces and matrix spaces, specifically focusing on the operator T acting on P_2(\mathbb{C}) and M_{k \times k}(\mathbb{R}).

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  • Participants explore the notation and definitions related to the operator T, questioning the interpretation of (Tf)(x) and the dimensionality of the vector space V. There are attempts to compute characteristic and minimal polynomials, with some participants suggesting diagonalization as a potential approach.

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There is ongoing exploration of the properties of the operators, with some participants providing insights into the dimensionality of the spaces involved and the implications for matrix representations. Questions remain about the correctness of assumptions and the potential for contradictions in reasoning.

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Participants note confusion regarding the dimensionality of the identity matrix used in the context of the operator T and its matrix representation. There is also discussion about the implications of having a k^2-dimensional space and how it affects the representation of linear operators.

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Compute the minimal polynomials for each of the following operators. Determine which of the following operators is diagonalizable.

a) [itex]T : P_2(\mathbb{C}) \to P_2(\mathbb{C})[/itex], where:

[tex](Tf)(x) = -xf''(x) + (i + 1)f'(x) - 2if(x)[/tex].

b) Let [itex]V = M_{k \times k}(\mathbb{R})[/itex].

[tex]T : V \to V[/itex] by [itex]T(A) = -2A^t[/itex][/tex][itex].<br /> <br /> For (a), I think the notation (Tf)(x) is confusing me a little. Do they mean T(f(x))? If f = ax² + bx + c, am I right in saying that:<br /> <br /> (Tf)(x) = x²(-2ia) + x(2i)(a - b) + (b + i(b - 2c))?<br /> <br /> For (b), I start by finding the characteristic polynomial of T. Let B be the matrix representation of T with respect to some ordered basis. Then, the characteristic polynomial of T is:<br /> <br /> g(t) = det(B - tI)<br /> g(t) = det(BI + B(½tI))<br /> g(t) = det(B((1 + ½t)I))<br /> g(t) = det((1 + ½t)BI)<br /> g(t) = det((1 + ½t)(-2I))<br /> g(t) = det(-(2 + t)I)<br /> g(t) = (-1)ⁿ(2 + t)ⁿ, where n = dim(V)<br /> <br /> I'm not sure whether n = k or n = k². Now, either way, the minimal polynomial of T is the same as the minimal polynomial of B, which will be some power of (2 + t). Let's try the first power, so the minimal polynomial is:<br /> <br /> p(t) = 2 + t<br /> <br /> Then:<br /> <br /> p(B) = 2I + B = 2I + BI = 2I - 2I = 0, so the first power seems right.<br /> <br /> Now, for some [itex]A \in V, A \neq A^t[/itex], we have:<br /> <br /> [tex]0 = p(B)(A) = (2I + B)A = 2A + BA = 2A - 2A^t = 2(A - A^t) \neq 0,[/tex]<br /> <br /> a contradiction. Where did I go wrong?[/itex]
 
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What is [itex]P_2(\mathbb{C})[/itex]? I'm going to assume it means complex quadratic polynomials.


Notice the domain and range of T: it takes a polynomial and spits out another polynomial. The parentheses are correct: you compute Tf first. Tf is a polynomial, so you can evaluate it at x: (Tf)(x).


Your problem for (b) is that you got your identy matrices confused. In:

g(t) = det(B - tI)

I is the identity operator on V, a k^4 dimensional space. However, you treated it as if it was the identity matrix in V, a k^2 dimensional space, when you went to the next line.

(BTW, did you remember to check that T was linear before you assumed it was a matrix?)


I think diagonalizing first is a better approach for this one. I thought it was fairly easy to find k^2 linearly independent eigenvectors of T. Then, once you have the eigenvalues, you can write down the minimum polynomial.
 
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Hurkyl said:
Your problem for (b) is that you got your identy matrices confused. In:

g(t) = det(B - tI)

I is the identity operator on V, a k^4 dimensional space.
I think you mean k²-dimensional.
I think diagonalizing first is a better approach for this one. I thought it was fairly easy to find k^2 linearly independent eigenvectors of T. Then, once you have the eigenvalues, you can write down the minimum polynomial.
I checked that T was linear, so there should be a matrix representation of it. You make it seem that the matrix should be a (k² x k²)-matrix. If B is this matrix, then:

T(v) = Bv for all v in V. But this means that we're multiplying a (k² x k²)-matrix, B, by a (k x k)-matrix v, which isn't possible.

Another thing: assuming all else was right, and I found g(t) correctly (with n = k² according to you), then the rest should still hold, and I should still get that contradiction.
 
Basically, T is linear, so it should have a matrix representation, and if v is in V, then T(v) = Bv, so B must be an (k x k)-matrix. However, when we usually have operators over n dimensional spaces, their matrices are (n x n)-matrices, and since we have a k²-dimensional space here, we would expect a (k² x k²)-matrix. Now, is there any reason why the fact that we don't have such a matrix problematic? Do we really get any contradictions, or is it just unusual? As far as I can tell, it isn't really a problem, what do you think?
 
First thing you have to notice for (b):

V, the vector space of all kxk matrices over R, is a k^2 dimensional vector space.

T is a linear operator on V, so it does have a matrix representation, which you can get by selecting a basis for V...

However, just like for any other vector space, you also have to write the elements of V in terms of the basis vectors -- so if you're writing T as a matrix, you have to write elements of V as k^2-tuples, and T would indeed be written as a k^2 x k^2 matrix.
 
Hurkyl said:
you have to write elements of V as k^2-tuples
Oh, perfect. Thanks!
 

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