Here's a question for you on inertia

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The discussion revolves around a hypothetical scenario involving two electric charges, +Q and +q, and explores the nature of mass in relation to inertia and the forces acting on the charge q. Participants examine the implications of resonance in motion and the relationship between force and mass, while also addressing the clarity of the question posed.

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  • One participant presents a scenario where the charge q is influenced by the electric field of charge Q, questioning the nature of mass (positive or negative) when q is moved under the influence of force f(Qq).
  • Another participant seeks clarification on terms like "resonate its state of motion" and questions the meaning of "nature of mass q," suggesting that the system may be in a steady state.
  • Further responses express confusion about the original question and emphasize the need for clearer definitions and proper language.
  • Some participants argue that to achieve the same state of motion, the same force must be applied, indicating that the question may not be well-posed in relation to mass and inertia.
  • One participant asserts that inertia, defined as mass, is independent of the forces applied, suggesting that the inquiry conflates different concepts.

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Participants generally express disagreement regarding the clarity and formulation of the original question. There is no consensus on the implications of the scenario or the relationship between force and mass.

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Participants note limitations in the question's phrasing and the need for clearer definitions, which may affect the understanding of the concepts discussed.

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here's a question for you on inertia
"consider a hypothetical situation consisting of two charges +Q and +q,only the effect of electric field is taken under consideration,and there is no other interaction taking place,the force on q due to Q is f(Qq),the direction of this force is described by coulomb's law of electrostatics"
if the charge particle q is taken away from Q in such a way that the force used in doing the same allows particle to resonate its state of motion,being produced in the presence of original force f(Qq) only,what will be the nature of mass q (negative or positive)?
also consider that the transient time in making that resonance is negligible
 
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nouveau_riche said:
here's a question for you on inertia
"consider a hypothetical situation consisting of two charges +Q and +q,only the effect of electric field is taken under consideration,and there is no other interaction taking place,the force on q due to Q is f(Qq),the direction of this force is described by coulomb's law of electrostatics"
With you up to here.
nouveau_riche said:
if the charge particle q is taken away from Q in such a way that the force used in doing the same allows particle to resonate its state of motion,being produced in the presence of original force f(Qq) only,what will be the nature of mass q (negative or positive)?
also consider that the transient time in making that resonance is negligible

I'm afraid that you've lost me at this point. Perhaps you could elucidate further. What do you mean "resonate its state of motion"? And what do you mean the "nature of mass q"? By the last sentence I guess you re saying that the system is in a steady state?
 


Hootenanny said:
With you up to here.


I'm afraid that you've lost me at this point. Perhaps you could elucidate further. What do you mean "resonate its state of motion"? And what do you mean the "nature of mass q"? By the last sentence I guess you re saying that the system is in a steady state?

resonate in order to produce the similar state of motion it will have in presence of f(Qq) only,
nature of mass(negative or positive)
 


is there no one to reply or you can't solve this?
 


I would be happy to help, but your question still does not make sense. Define all of your terms clearly and use proper English (correct punctuation goes a long way).
 


chrisbaird said:
I would be happy to help, but your question still does not make sense. Define all of your terms clearly and use proper English (correct punctuation goes a long way).

in simple words
"a charge Q gives q a particular state of motion by taking it from point A To B,if an external force is used to produce the same state of motion,then what will be the mass of q,considering the fact that transient time (to make that state happen) is negligible
 


The question is not well posed. To get the same motion, you need the same force, so that's the answer. That has nothing to do with mass or inertia.
 


Ken G said:
The question is not well posed. To get the same motion, you need the same force, so that's the answer. That has nothing to do with mass or inertia.

you are not understanding it
what will be the resistance offered to that force if you give the same motion?
 


The way objects resist forces is innate to the object, inertia = mass. Thus, inertia has nothing to do with the force applied, those are two separate topics entirely. That's why your question is ill posed, you are essentially asking, if I have an apple, what is its banana?
 

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